June 21, 2025

Fabrizio Poggi interview

Fabrizio Poggi joins me on episode 137.

Fabrizio plays blues, folk and spiritual music. Hailing from near Milan, he took some time to find his way with the harmonica but since then he has performed at Carnegie Hall and been nominated for a Grammy.

His first band was Chicken Mambo who played New Orleans music on their early album releases.

Fabrizio traveled around the US where he made lots of friends and great strides with his musical development.

This culminated with the making of an album in 2013 where the Blind Boys of Alabama and Charlie Musselwhite make an appearance. Fabrizio then teamed-up with Guy Davis where their second album together, Sonny & Brownie’s Last Train, was nominated for a Grammy in 2018.

Links:

Website: https://www.chickenmambo.com/eng/

Biography: https://www.chickenmambo.com/eng/biography/

Discography: https://www.chickenmambo.com/eng/discography/

Juba Dance album with Guy Davis: https://guydavis.bandcamp.com/album/juba-dance

Videos:

Italian Folk Band: Fabrizio Poggi e Turututela Miniera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnhwOfCjrpU

Harpway 61 album song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx-Reyl3ZuI

Playing live at Carnegie Hall with Guy Davis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joe1mRWMLwc

TV appearance with Guy Davis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzlcccMDPFM

Fabrizio live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkqHNcATQ3A

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01:36 - Fabrizio lives just south of the Italian city of Milan and is a singer and writer, as well as a harmonica player

01:47 - Main genres are blues, spirituals and folk

02:10 - Played some Italian folk music early on in career with the band Turututela

02:58 - Also plays a lot of gospel (aka spiritual) music

03:49 - First turned onto the blues when saw Paul Butterfield and Muddy Waters on The Last Waltz where he jumped on the seat in the movie theatre when Muddy appeared

06:02 - Bought a harmonica the day after hearing Paul Butterfield for the first time but it took some time for Fabrizio to learn, with no-one playing harmonica in the local area

06:43 - Almost gave up learning harmonica until someone told him how to play in second position

08:13 - Was obsessed to learn the harmonica from age of around 20

08:21 - Learnt blues harmonica from records

09:58 - Started playing in bands but learnt most when travelled to the US in the 1990s

10:43 - Came back with a suitcase full of CDs from the US

11:39 - There was a blues scene around Milan but not much harmonica, with British player John Mayall the best known harmonica player and the British blues bands visible in Italy

13:18 - The language barrier was also a factor, with not many people in Italy speaking English at that time

13:30 - Fabrizio jokes that he learnt English from Muddy Waters and Howling Wolf

13:42 - Blues scene in Italy is popular now, with lots of young players and Fabrizio hopes he has been an inspiration to some young players there

14:56 - Blues is widely available across Italy now, especially festivals in the summer

15:24 - Lot of music venues have closed in Italy

15:53 - Fabrizio’s first main band was Chicken Mambo, who wanted to play New Orleans music

17:23 - Visited New Orleans on first visit to the US and to the Jazz and Heritage festival with lots of big names appearing

18:07 - Second album with Chicken Mambo was Under The Southern Sky, another self-produced album

19:13 - Toured the US between 1998-2002, making a lot of friends along the way and improving as a musician

20:26 - In 2010 took the whole Chicken Mambo band to play in the US

20:33 - Made first album in the US in 1999: Nuther World, in an attempt to record with an authentic sound

21:24 - Self-funded a lot of Chicken Mambo’s albums and travel in the early years

22:07 - Nuther World was a tribute to the singer songwriters that Fabrizio enjoyed when young

22:43 - Learnt a lot during this time, especially from the generous support of people in the US

23:02 - The musicians were very supportive and happy to perform with Fabrizio

23:56 - Album Songs For Angelina is for his wife, who has been very supportive throughout his career

24:23 - Performed at the King Biscuit Time festival in Helena, Arkansas, several times, where he met James Cotton, among others

25:19 - Might have played through the very same mic as Sonny Boy Williamson II

25:43 - Blind Boys of Alabama and Charlie Musselwhite appear on Fabrizio’s 2013 album: Spirit of Mercy

26:11 - Some of the many great artists Fabrizio has shared the stage with

27:27 - How got Blind Boys of Alabama and Charlie Musselwhite to play on the Spirits of Mercy album

29:49 - Released Harpway 61 album in 2012, a tribute to the blues harmonica greats, and gifted to the Blues Foundation to help raise money for blues musicians

31:33 - Made first album with Guy Davis in 2013: Juba Dance, and how teamed-up with him

32:32 - Shared a passion for acoustic blues with Guy Davis

33:26 - Sonny & Brownie’s Last Train album from 2017 was nominated for a Grammy

34:59 - The Rolling Stones won the Grammy in the same category in the year they were nominated

35:16 - Went to the Grammy ceremony in Madison Square Gardens in New York

35:53 - Chastised by security after playing the harmonica on the red carpet at the Grammy ceremony

37:14 - Guy Davis appears on Fabrizio’s Basement Blues album from 2022, an archive compilation of live recordings made by Fabrizio over the preceding years

38:25 - His wife, Angelina, has played a pivotal role in Fabrizio’s career

39:16 - Latest album, from 2024, is Healing Blues, with Shar White (backing singer with Eric Clapton) guesting on the album

41:12 - Has appeared at Carnegie Hall with Guy Davis and the special acoustics there

42:31 - Has written four books, with a biography about Fabrizio written by Serena Simula released last year, entitled ‘Believe’, it’s about the belief that Fabrizio has in his dreams

43:34 - Has been awarded a Hohner Lifetime Achievement Award

45:20 - Honoured by the President of the Italian Republic with a Knight of Merit for artistic merit

46:49 - Ten minute question

48:27 - Is a Hohner endorsee with the Special 20 the diatonic of choice

49:06 - Doesn’t do any customisation but will sometimes have customisers make different tunings on his diatonics

49:33 - Plays acoustically through the PA, not using any amplifiers or dedicated harmonica mics

51:06 - Sonny Terry did play a little amplified harmonica, as discussed on the Sonny Terry retrospective podcast episode

51:33 - Only plays diatonic now, but played some tremolo, bass and chromatic harmonica in the Turututela folk band

52:12 - Was in contact with Brendan Power about his Irish harmonica playing on chromatic

52:33 - Doesn’t use any overblows

53:40 - Mainly uses lip pursing but mixed with tongue blocking when required for certain effects

54:12 - Uses SM58 to play and sing through

55:05 - Likes some reverb and delay on the mic, especially in the studio when has different channels for vocals and harmonica

55:49 - Some of studio work recorded has other effects when added by the producer in post-production

56:23 - Future plans include promoting the Healing Blues album and the Believe biography and a tour in Europe coming up

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Fabrizio Poggi joins me on episode 137.

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Fabrizio plays blues, folk and spiritual music.

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Hailing from near Milan, he took some time to find his way with the harmonica but since then has performed at Carnegie Hall and been nominated for a Grammy.

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His first band was Chicken Mambo who played New Orleans music on their early album releases.

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Fabrizio then travelled around the US where he made lots of friends and great strides with his musical development.

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This culminated with the making with an album in 2013 where the Blind Boys of Alabama and Charlie Musselwhite make an appearance.

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Fabrizio then teamed up with Guy Davis where their second album together, Sonny and Brownie's Last Train, was nominated for a Grammy in 2018.

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This podcast is sponsored by Seidel Harmonicas.

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Visit the oldest harmonica factory in the world at www.seidel1847.com or on Facebook or Instagram at Seidel Harmonicas.

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Hello Fabrizio Poggi and welcome to the podcast.

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Hello to you and all the listeners and thanks for having me.

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Thanks for joining.

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So Fabrizio, you're Italian and you live just south of Milan, yeah?

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Yeah, 45 minutes south of Milan.

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Well, you're a singer, harmonica player and writer as well, yeah?

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Yeah.

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And mainly in the blues genre of the harmonica and singing?

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Mainly on that, but I also think of myself to be also a folk musician or a roots musician.

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And I try to keep my mind pretty open.

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So blues, spirituals, folk music and beyond.

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And does that include any Italian folk music?

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Well, 25 years ago, I made a couple of CDs.

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and Italian Northern folk music.

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But just because it was a sort of duty for me, of commitment to save in some way my Italian roots.

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So I did a couple of CDs and I have a lot of fun.

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But then I came back to American music, which is my cup of tea.

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So as well as playing blues, you play plenty of gospel music as well, don't you?

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That's strong in your repertoire.

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Yeah, I prefer spiritual music because gospel to me...

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pretty modern.

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I like very much the old spirituals, the pre-war spirituals, so Blind Willie Johnson, Reverend Gary Davis, Elder Roman Wilson, and all that kind of stuff, Mississippi John Hurt.

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So I understand you first got into the blues when you saw Paul Butterfield playing on the last waltz, playing Mystery Train.

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Yeah, that was my blues epiphany for the blues and from that movie my life changed forever.

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So how did you get hold of a copy of that in Italy?

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I actually went to a small movie theatre in a a small village close to my little town and there was this movie The Last Waltz but at the time I didn't know nothing or very few things about the band I went just because I saw there were some rock stars that I liked and I saw Bob Dylan Van Morrison Eric Clapton Dr.

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John and others and I was in this little small movie theater And there were really few people there maybe five or six people and i remember that when i when i saw muddy waters that was treated like the emperor of the world from my musical heroes of that time i said who's this man this old black guy everyone is treated like like a king then he started oh yeah and I jump on my seat and all the other people in the movie theater look at me.

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I was like the wolf in the cartoons, you know, with my mouth wide open and say, wow! And then a few minutes after, Paul Butterfield.

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I never heard a harmonica playing like that.

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It was something unbelievable, amazing.

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So I was hooked forever.

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The next day, I went to a store and asked for a harmonica to play the blues.

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And the clerk at the store said, I don't know nothing about the blues.

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This is an harmonica.

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And he gave me a blues harp harmonica.

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And he says, I don't know.

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Try this.

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But it took me six months to achieve a sound that...

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remind a blue note on that harmonica, because at the time there were no internet, there were no Google, YouTube, there were no books with information, and no one around me played the harmonica, so at a certain point I said to myself, oh, maybe I have the wrong instrument, maybe in Great Britain or in US they have other instruments, so I was almost close to quit.

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Then one night I met at a jam session a guitar player and he wrote me on a napkin at the bar desk some information about the second position.

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The next day I didn't learn to play harmonica, but I saw the light.

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because if nothing of that harmonica reminds the blues in any way, it was very hard.

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It took me probably six months to learn something that a kid today learns in one day.

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So you didn't have many blues musicians around you to learn from?

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They all played guitar, no one played harmonica.

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But probably at that time there was one harmonica player in Milan and one harmonica player in Rome that maybe they went to London to have some class, some information, but they were very secretive, I have to be honest.

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And they didn't want to share their secrets and anyway i i live very far from them but my passion was deep i was in some way obsessed i want to play blues harmonica

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that's what we like to hear so how did you go about learning in those early days and i think were you around 20 years old this stage

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yeah yeah yeah i just tried to follow my my lps and try to repeat the licks i i heard but as you know i different keys and my turntable doesn't turn 33.

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So it was hard, but I keep on trying, keep on trying.

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Day after day, I discover one thing.

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Sometimes I just wake up in the middle of the night, maybe at 3 a.m., and I say, oh, probably...

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I know how I have to do to achieve that bend.

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And I was looking at the watch and said, oh, if I try to play my harmonica, my mother will not be very happy.

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So I have to wait eight in the morning or nine in the morning.

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But it was very forceful for my passion.

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But I kept straight.

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I was a steady rolling guy.

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Thank you.

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Sounds like you had a real passion and determination to learn.

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So at what point did you meet other musicians that start helping you with the blues?

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Or at what point did you start playing in bands?

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Yes, I started playing in bands.

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But I didn't have a lot of information since I went in the early 90s in the U.S., and there I discovered I was like a kid at Disneyland a lot of books a lot of explanations a lot of musicians playing blues harmonica so I improved a lot just like watching them just asking questions because I didn't have information not only about techniques but also the right record to buy it seems pretty weird telling today but Once that I discovered Port Butterfield, also in Milan or Rome, it was very, very, very hard at the end of the 70s to find something like that.

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And then Little Walter, Sonny Boy, Sonny Terry.

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But when I went to the U.S., I remember the first time I went to New Orleans with Angelina.

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I bought something like 100 CDs.

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100 i have to buy an extra suitcase

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and say that's a suitcase full

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yeah yeah yeah yeah it was it was another world before internet there was really another

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world completely the scene you know the blues scene at least around uh you know in northern italy there wasn't a lot of much of a blue scene was there not

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there was blues but not too much harmonica player there was guitar focused band no so they want to play british blues so what what we knew at the time in italy the only harmonica player was john male Because at the time, we have to thank the Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton and John Mayer and a few others to bring us the blues.

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If not, it was almost impossible.

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Then you discover, looking at the cover of a John Mayer LP, Eric Clapton LP, etc., you see Skip James.

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Ooh! I have to look for this Skip James or...

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But, of course, it was little by little by little.

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It's not like today you go on Spotify, blues harmonica.

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Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

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Yeah, in England where I grew up, there was like blues compilation albums released.

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So we could get these blues compilation.

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So they were a really good source for lots of people, especially in England, who got those when they were young.

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So you didn't have that type of blues compilation?

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No, unfortunately not, because there were no market.

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Also, you have to think about the language barrier.

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Most of the people of my generation didn't speak English.

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Thank you.

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I didn't study English at the school.

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I always joke and tell that my English teacher was an owly wolf, so I have to apologize.

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They've taught you well.

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They've taught you well.

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That's good to hear.

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So what's the blues scene like in Italian now, then?

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Much improved?

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Oh, yeah.

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The young generation speaks great English.

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They study at school.

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Sometimes you can listen to them.

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They don't have an Italian accent.

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accent in their singing it's another world the blues singing is alive and well there are a lot of people playing the blues always complaining of course because this is not the music but this is all over the world they say but this happened but there are great bands great musicians great harmonica players and I'm happy And I hope that I was an inspiration for most of the Italian players of nowadays, because me and other guys, we were pioneers in some way.

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Is

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there one particular city where the blues is, you know, especially big in Italy?

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Say people are going on holiday to Italy, where might they go to see some good blues?

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I think that especially in summer, there are a lot of blues festivals from north to south, from big city to small city.

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So you have to be lucky to be there when they have the blues festival.

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Unfortunately, a lot of music Music clubs are closing in the last year because of various problems.

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But in summertime, you can listen to the blues pretty often on the lakes or on the sea.

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But from Sardinia to the Alps, you know, all across the little booths.

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So let's get on to your career then.

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So your first main band, I think, was...

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Chicken Mambo, yeah, and that's a sort of long-running band you've been in.

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Yes.

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So you released your first album, I think, with them in 1993, Mississippi Moon.

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Yeah.

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Where was that band based?

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Was that...

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around where you live now or

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yeah yeah it was a was a band of people uh living around me in my area and and we were pretty green because with a rock blues band we wanted hardly to play new orleans music that is all about piano about brass bands about accordions But we fell in love with New Orleans music, and we wanted to play New Orleans music with just a harmonica, a bass, a drum, and a guitar.

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We were nuts.

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Missy Bumun, I have a lot of affection for that record, but it is very, very rough.

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You've got a song on there called Creole Queen, so that's sort of New Orleans.

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Yeah.

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The first time that Angeline and I went to the States, we went to New Orleans, and we went to the Jazz and Heritage Festival.

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And there was another Disneyland, because all the American roots music was there, from B.B.

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King to Allman Brothers Band, from Neville Brothers to Clifton Chenier, from Irma Thomas to you name it.

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And I was in love with a Louisiana player called Zachary Richard, who was huge there in Louisiana and in Canada.

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So I fell in love with that kind of music.

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And so you had another album with them, Under the Southern Sky.

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So is that a similar theme?

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We were trying to improve on that album.

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But honestly, Neil, we were really frustrated because all our first records, doesn't sound like the records that we have at home.

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So every time we finish a CD, go home, listen and say, oh, it sucks.

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Really.

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So were they self-produced albums or did you have a record label?

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No, no, self-produced.

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But of course, the studio, when we were recording those records, was a studio for Italian pop music.

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So our records sound like Madonna singing the blues.

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You toured the U.S.

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between, what, 1998 and 2002, right?

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I guess you went backwards and forwards between Italy and U.S., and you sort of did a long tour across the U.S.

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over four years.

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Yeah.

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First, it was a sort of pilgrimage to the sacred sites of American music, so we went...

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to New Orleans, Memphis, Mississippi, Chicago, Nashville, and so on.

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And then I started to make friends over there.

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So, connection, I had the chance to jam with American musicians, and it was another way to improve.

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It's the best way when you play with musicians better than you, you become better.

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So, did you go with the whole chicken man bar band or were you just traveling with your wife in the

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beginning i i traveled with just just me and my wife then i took with me the guitar player and tried to play some little gig that my american friends found to me some local bars and and you join and and roadhouses it was not until 2010 that i had my full italian band in the states

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during part of this tour you were recorded an album in the States, didn't you?

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Was this the Another World?

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Is that the first?

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Yeah, yeah, it was the first time.

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But because we have a lot of dubs, we were asking ourselves, we musicians in Chicken Mambo, who's the fault?

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Is Italian sound engineer's fault or our fault?

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Not sounding...

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in any way like the american and also the british recording so we discovered that default was in the middle as always as always

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so this first album you recorded was that done uh again was that a self-produced one

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yeah it was a self-produced so we have to save a lot of money from the geeks from a couple of years we did every one of us as a day job so it was not really a problem we were playing just Fridays, Saturdays and we saved all the money to produce because at the time for a full band to go overseas to record an album was in an economic way very hard but we saved money and we were Ah.

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Pretty satisfied, but I didn't record a blues record.

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I just wanted to pay homage to the singer-songwriter that I grew up when I was a teenager in Italy and I have this cassette deck in my car.

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So Jackson Brown, Jeff Walker, Willie Nelson, you know.

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So I went to Texas and I said, I want to do...

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something like that and I did and I was quite satisfied it was a great experience because we learned a lot of things not only in studio or on stage but also backstage people with us were very generous a lot of good advices that were very helpful I discovered also another amazing thing that all the heroes of my youthness folk singer-songwriter blues were simple people approachable people that I even can ask them to sit with me live or for a studio session and it was just unbelievable because I thought that all the people that play blues and And B.O.

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was like stars.

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It was not easy to reach for them.

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And that was something that also made me better, not only as a musician, but also as a human being.

00:23:51.842 --> 00:23:55.305
Yeah, well, clearly you've made friends, a lot of friends in the US.

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We'll get on to that shortly.

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So first of all, you made an album called Songs for Angelina, and that is your wife.

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And of course, Angelina's been helping set up this interview too.

00:24:03.491 --> 00:24:05.193
So hello, Angelina, and thanks to her.

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So the last podcast episode was a Sonny Boy Williamson 2 tribute I

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heard that.

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Very interesting.

00:24:23.450 --> 00:24:27.733
Angelina and I, we were adopted by Sonny Payne.

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I don't know how it's happened, but he loved us.

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And one year, he invited us to stay at his home for the King Biscuit Time Blues Festival in Helena, Arkansas.

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And it was pretty beautiful.

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Because I remember I was chatting with James Cotton and another...

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great people, Delbert McClint or Bobby Rush in the backstage and was...

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And I remember the first time that we were at the King Biscuit time, it was really amazing.

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And because...

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He asked pretty often the guests, the visitors, if they are musicians, want to play something during the program.

00:25:18.382 --> 00:25:30.291
So it was, I remember this mic and I was thinking, oh, maybe this is the mic where Sonny Boy Williamson II was playing through.

00:25:30.291 --> 00:25:32.193
So, wow.

00:25:32.713 --> 00:25:32.933
Great.

00:25:32.933 --> 00:25:37.798
So you've been there to the King Visit time, which is a nice connection to the last podcast episode.

00:25:37.798 --> 00:25:53.807
And then again, you're talking about you making uh the many friends you you have fabricio so you made an album called um spirit of mercy in uh 2013 with the chicken mambo band and you played spiritual songs and on this charlie musselwhite appears and the blind boys of alabama

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yeah

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yeah

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I had the privilege to feel blessed because, really, I shared the stage with most of my heroes, as you say, like the Blind Boys of Alabama, Charlie Maxwell, Guy Davis, Marshall Ball, Ron Hurd, Kim Wills, John Hammond, Sonny Landreth, Garth Atwell of the band, and Eric Bibb, and much more.

00:26:35.984 --> 00:26:39.567
And most of them were really heroes of my life.

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of my youth.

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And still they are.

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When I was 16, I was in my little room in this little town in northern Italy, listening to their records.

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I didn't imagine that one day I would play with them.

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So I feel really blessed.

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For me, there are not enough words to explain how moving it was to me to play with these people.

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I still have goosebumps just talking about that.

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It was amazing.

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great artists and often wonderful human beings.

00:27:16.036 --> 00:27:26.661
Having the opportunity to sing with the legendary Blind Boys of Alabama was one of my highest musical privileges in my life.

00:27:27.074 --> 00:27:31.938
So how did this come about then, this album with the Blind Boys of Alabama and Charlie Musselwhite?

00:27:32.238 --> 00:27:39.285
Well, once I have the Blind Boys, I just ask Charlie, say, I already have the Blind Boys of Alabama.

00:27:39.285 --> 00:27:40.526
Oh, so you have two.

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So Charlie was really nice and still is a close friend also nowadays.

00:27:49.093 --> 00:27:57.039
And then the Blind Boys, we just asked the manager, that was one of my dreams, and then they asked it.

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for their fee, and I said, well, that's okay, but this is the fee of the war records I can afford.

00:28:07.691 --> 00:28:21.705
Then I met them in Germany, and they knew me, and now I was how Angelina was, so they decided to record me for a very special prize.

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Nice.

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And what about Charlie Musselwhite?

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How did he get involved?

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Yeah, as I told you, Once that I had the Blind Boys, Charlie is a close friend of the Blind Boys of Alabama, so once that I had them recorded, I sent a musical file to Charlie management and said, I know that they are friends, so maybe Charlie would like, I don't know, I'm just praying, but maybe he would like to be part of this dream come true.

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And it was great.

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But Charlie, you is really a legend as a man and not only as a musician.

00:29:15.778 --> 00:29:17.259
Hey, what's happening, y'all?

00:29:17.259 --> 00:29:24.105
Jason Ritchie from Blue Moon Harmonicas, and I'm here to tell you that Blue Moon Harmonicas are the way.

00:29:24.105 --> 00:29:27.587
You can customize them yourself, or you can get Tom to do them.

00:29:27.587 --> 00:29:29.609
The website is a rabbit hole.

00:29:29.609 --> 00:29:50.509
We're talking about custom combs, custom cover plates, throwbacks, refurbished pre-wars, double reed plates, anything you can imagine, aluminum, ABS, plastic, phenolic resin, wood, any kind of comb you want, any In 2012,

00:29:50.528 --> 00:29:55.595
just a year before then, you released an album called Harpway 61, so a nice harmonica title.

00:29:55.595 --> 00:30:01.520
So this was released by the Blues Foundation, and you're playing various of the, you know, the various blues harmonica great songs.

00:30:01.520 --> 00:30:06.006
So, you know, you're doing Tootwiler, which is the tribute to Sonny Boy Williamson again.

00:30:06.006 --> 00:30:07.727
That's a place where he was buried, of course.

00:30:07.727 --> 00:30:09.710
We talked about that on the last podcast episode.

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...

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Yeah, so

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you're doing the various tribute songs to, you know, the sort of harmonica greats on here, yeah?

00:30:38.708 --> 00:30:43.134
Yes, I just wanted to give back something...

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to the blues musician that made me in some way achieve most of my dreams.

00:30:49.310 --> 00:30:51.913
It was just a gift.

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I made the record and I gave to the Blues Foundation to raise money to help blues musicians.

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And so I decided to do a sort of tribute to the great harmonica players.

00:31:04.825 --> 00:31:09.167
I didn't want to emulate every harmonica player.

00:31:09.167 --> 00:31:17.917
Also to inspire young musicians to dig into harmonica greats world

00:31:33.538 --> 00:31:35.019
I mentioned Guy Davis a few times.

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So he's become a real musical partner of yours.

00:31:37.984 --> 00:31:41.951
So you did your first album with him in 2013, Juba Dance.

00:31:41.951 --> 00:31:42.913
Yeah.

00:31:42.913 --> 00:31:45.076
Which was a real success.

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It was number one on the Roots Music charts.

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And then it was also nominated for a Blues Award for Acoustic Albums.

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Because if you do, you'll never see it again.

00:31:59.278 --> 00:31:59.357
Yeah.

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you give me no money?

00:32:07.602 --> 00:32:10.118
How did this come about with Guy Davis?

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Well, I just met Guy in a blues festival here in Italy in 2007.

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And when we met at this festival, between us was born almost immediately a deep friendship based not only on mutual respect, but also about the passion that we both have for the acoustic folk blues over the years we found ourselves like as they say in US brothers from another mother we grew up and we live in two different worlds but in some way sometimes I think that we grew up together without knowing it and this is something amazing this is the great miracle of music and the blues, to be able to feel a brotherhood with someone that seems, and I underline the word seems, seems pretty different from you, but you know what I mean.

00:33:26.145 --> 00:33:28.667
So, well, you got a great partnership with Guy Davison.

00:33:28.667 --> 00:33:32.912
So you released another album in 2017, which is Sonny and Brownie's Last Train.

00:33:32.912 --> 00:33:34.553
Obviously, Sonny Terry there.

00:33:34.553 --> 00:33:37.635
And so this was nominated for a Grammy in 2018.

00:33:38.236 --> 00:33:41.199
That's something really unexpected.

00:33:41.199 --> 00:33:43.961
Guy didn't want to make that album.

00:33:43.961 --> 00:33:56.112
I said, Angelina, my wife, Guy, think that it's a great idea to remind people who were Sonny Terry and Brownie McGee, because Angelina think they are a little bit forgotten.

00:33:56.112 --> 00:34:01.837
But Guy said, no, no, I don't think that the world needs Solitario Brown and McGee.

00:34:01.837 --> 00:34:04.941
And I said, Guy, you live in New York.

00:34:04.941 --> 00:34:06.502
I live with my wife.

00:34:06.502 --> 00:34:07.763
So understand me.

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We have to do it.

00:34:08.844 --> 00:34:11.547
So we were on the road together.

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And in one day, we recorded the whole album.

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¶¶

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Don't want to know we

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have just one take for so so it took me six months to edit something to make it shine and really we didn't expect then but was nominated for the Grammys so it was something unbelievable if you if you remember that I'm just a shy guy from a small town in northern

00:34:58.818 --> 00:35:02.945
Italy was that the that the Rolling Stones won the Grammy in the same category.

00:35:03.126 --> 00:35:03.487
Yeah.

00:35:03.487 --> 00:35:10.320
For me, challenging the Rolling Stones at the Madison Square Garden in New York was like challenging my dad.

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:15.431
Because if we're not from the Rolling Stones, no Fabrizio at all.

00:35:16.641 --> 00:35:17.842
Did you go to the ceremony?

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Yeah,

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of course.

00:35:19.985 --> 00:35:21.525
And it was something.

00:35:21.525 --> 00:35:27.711
I always tell people, say, what do you remember of the ceremony and all the stuff around?

00:35:27.711 --> 00:35:31.735
They say, it was like, you know when you go on a roller coaster, no?

00:35:31.735 --> 00:35:34.297
Up, down, up, down.

00:35:34.297 --> 00:35:39.021
Then when you get off the roller coaster, you are a little dizzy.

00:35:39.021 --> 00:35:41.163
I'm lucky.

00:35:41.163 --> 00:35:42.364
I have the picture.

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If not, it's still a little difficult for me to believe that because it was...

00:35:49.931 --> 00:36:16.414
I was so amazed that at a certain point I had an harmonica in my pocket and I started to play my harmonica on the red carpet and all the security guards went to me and said, you are not supposed to do that! No one is playing the harmonica on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards! I said, well, I'm not from here...

00:36:16.414 --> 00:36:49.278
Neil was great I still have goosebumps because yeah it's quite a thing and something really unexpected at all I'm really honest if okay for Guy Davis it was my past part too but if one of my friends came in my room and said you know Fabrizio one day you will challenge the Rolling Stones for a Grammy I would have told him to my friend don't tease me It will never happen.

00:36:49.278 --> 00:36:52.327
You want to be so mean to me.

00:37:13.153 --> 00:37:15.097
So

00:37:15.157 --> 00:37:20.485
you carry on playing with Guy Davis and he recorded on an album with you again with Basement Blues, yeah?

00:37:20.485 --> 00:37:23.168
So I think he just did just one song on there with you.

00:37:23.230 --> 00:37:26.695
Basement Blues is a sort of my archive.

00:37:26.695 --> 00:37:30.641
So I have live recordings with Guy.

00:37:30.641 --> 00:37:30.721
You

00:37:33.786 --> 00:37:44.733
better watch out all you people A little red rooster on the ground Fabrizio, tell them about that rooster

00:37:51.489 --> 00:37:57.175
and also songs that didn't went on the official records.

00:37:57.175 --> 00:37:59.836
But I had a lot of records.

00:37:59.836 --> 00:38:09.806
So, because Bassman Blues was born because Angelina, my wife, one day asked to me, Fabrizio, when you do your own Bassman tapes?

00:38:09.806 --> 00:38:17.271
So I said, oh, I can have my Bassman Blues, get into the light, some old recordings.

00:38:17.271 --> 00:38:25.000
So that album was new and old recording, putting two together and I was pretty satisfied I

00:38:25.981 --> 00:38:34.369
don't know Fabrizio if it was Muddy Waters and the Rolling Stones inspired you I think Angelina had a more important influence on your career by the sounds of things

00:38:35.050 --> 00:38:54.271
yeah she is for me is more than a wife she is the person that I hope I wish all the people to meet in your life to meet an Angelina or an Angelino when you are lost in your life sometimes it happens bring you back home.

00:38:54.271 --> 00:39:00.737
Angelina helped me a lot to come out of a black hole when I had fallen a few years ago.

00:39:00.737 --> 00:39:08.425
I had a severe depression and she was always close to me in my project.

00:39:08.425 --> 00:39:13.791
She really is my little angel and my dream catcher.

00:39:13.791 --> 00:39:15.534
I was really lucky.

00:39:15.914 --> 00:39:19.838
So your latest album released in 2024 is Healing Blues.

00:39:19.838 --> 00:39:20.398
Yeah.

00:39:20.398 --> 00:39:26.110
So again, you know, spiritual numbers on here and on some blues as well so yeah this is uh came out last year yeah

00:39:26.371 --> 00:39:50.501
in some way it's a follow of a best man blues because in some way it continued my research in my archives and i also had some songs recorded for the occasion And then I made this deep friendship about spiritual music with Cher White, who is the back singer, with Eric Clapton.

00:39:50.501 --> 00:39:58.213
And also with Cher, I discovered that she was my sister from another mystery.

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¶¶

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I want Jesus to

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walk with me the same coin so we came to collaborate together and she sang three songs actually on the record and she sings really like an angel

00:41:12.034 --> 00:41:18.121
So you've also played at Carnegie Hall in New York with Guy Davis and also with Buddy Guy, I think, in the same...

00:41:18.161 --> 00:41:20.905
Yeah, Walter Trout.

00:41:20.905 --> 00:41:23.248
There was a lot of great people.

00:41:23.248 --> 00:41:28.094
Eric Barden was there and a lot of great musicians.

00:41:28.094 --> 00:41:33.061
The Carnegie Hall was something incredible.

00:41:33.061 --> 00:41:35.724
But just the acoustic of the room.

00:41:35.724 --> 00:41:36.746
When the people...

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are clapping hands.

00:41:38.516 --> 00:41:40.521
It's something special.

00:41:40.521 --> 00:41:48.217
I remember a guy and me were playing a song and I had a solo in the middle of the song.

00:41:48.217 --> 00:41:53.349
And at the end of my harmonica solo, people started to clap.

00:41:53.349 --> 00:42:03.534
And the sound of the clapping hands was so big, so huge, etc., that moved me back from the microphone.

00:42:03.534 --> 00:42:10.565
I had to walk a couple of steps to make me close again to the sound.

00:42:10.565 --> 00:42:13.347
It was amazing.

00:42:13.347 --> 00:42:22.501
When you enter to the Carnegie Hall and you see the Hall of Fame of the people who are playing there, you wanted to walk away.

00:42:22.501 --> 00:42:23.581
Ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:42:23.650 --> 00:42:24.702
Ha ha ha!

00:42:24.898 --> 00:42:28.541
You want to run from this and say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:42:28.541 --> 00:42:29.882
I'm too scared to play here.

00:42:29.922 --> 00:42:34.286
So as well as all your playing, you've written four books.

00:42:34.286 --> 00:42:40.632
There's one which is about the stories and legends of the blues, and there's ones about blues harmonica and blues harmonica players.

00:42:40.632 --> 00:42:41.112
Yeah.

00:42:41.112 --> 00:42:45.295
And then last year, Believe, which is a sort of biography about you, yeah?

00:42:45.615 --> 00:42:45.835
Yeah.

00:42:45.835 --> 00:42:47.757
A female journalist wrote to me.

00:42:47.757 --> 00:42:50.260
She chose the title.

00:42:50.260 --> 00:42:54.864
The complete title is Believe Conversation with Fabrizio.

00:42:54.864 --> 00:43:34.458
but she could be my daughter because I'm 67 and she's 32 but the beauty that from the very beginning she discovered that I really believe in my dreams she choose that title and we didn't want to change it because I didn't have any expectation but I went beyond my biggest dreams so it is beautiful it is something that makes sometimes to think that life is beautiful and I feel blessed for that

00:43:34.882 --> 00:43:35.822
been blessed some more.

00:43:35.822 --> 00:43:39.646
You've won various awards, one of which is a Honour Lifetime Award.

00:43:39.646 --> 00:43:40.887
Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:43:41.507 --> 00:43:58.402
At the Honour, at that time, people thought that, as I told you some minutes ago, I was in some way an inspiration in Italy for blues players, harmonica players, in general, talking in general.

00:43:58.402 --> 00:44:01.925
So, they wanted to give me an award.

00:44:01.925 --> 00:44:13.597
Also, to my work, I go to the school I go to the student and say, look at me, now I'm a pretty old man, but you are young people, no?

00:44:13.597 --> 00:44:15.719
So believe in your dreams.

00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:25.849
Maybe you will not achieve fully your dreams, but just the journey towards your dreams will be amazing.

00:44:25.849 --> 00:44:41.286
You will meet some people that will change your life together and probably those people will tell you some words that you will cherish deep down in your hearts for the rest of your life.

00:44:41.286 --> 00:44:44.710
And this is something important.

00:44:44.710 --> 00:44:53.981
I think that musicians have the duty to pass the torch for the instrument, for music.

00:44:53.981 --> 00:44:56.083
It's something that we have to do.

00:44:56.083 --> 00:44:58.025
And I felt really committed.

00:44:58.025 --> 00:45:02.750
And the owner understood that at that time, and I was happy.

00:45:02.945 --> 00:45:05.293
Bye.

00:45:05.293 --> 00:45:05.373
Bye.

00:45:20.097 --> 00:45:26.969
And you've also been honoured by the President of the Italian Republic for a Knight of Merit for Artistic Merit in Italy, eh?

00:45:27.349 --> 00:45:30.514
Oh yes, that was another thing I didn't expect.

00:45:30.514 --> 00:45:46.237
If you think about that, an harmonica player playing mostly blues music, blues and spiritual music, became Knights of Merit of the Italian Republic in Italy.

00:45:46.237 --> 00:45:54.820
It's like to challenge the Rolling Stones at the Mendicino Square Garden, something that don't happen very, very often.

00:45:54.820 --> 00:46:00.469
And this president, Sergio Mattarella, is on his second term.

00:46:00.469 --> 00:46:07.137
He's so good that they tell you, because you usually, after seven years, we change the president.

00:46:07.137 --> 00:46:08.840
It's the law.

00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:15.568
But he was so good and so great that we wanted him for more seven years.

00:46:16.322 --> 00:46:24.378
So you went, so it was a big ceremony with lots of nice Italian dress and a nice, was it in a sort of nice Italian building and all these,

00:46:24.398 --> 00:46:24.900
yeah?

00:46:24.900 --> 00:46:25.882
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

00:46:25.943 --> 00:46:26.163
yeah.

00:46:26.163 --> 00:46:26.784
Beautiful, yeah.

00:46:27.244 --> 00:46:28.047
All the package.

00:46:28.047 --> 00:46:30.172
Yeah.

00:46:30.172 --> 00:46:33.458
And Angelina were, as always, in tears.

00:46:33.458 --> 00:46:38.884
Because, of course, when they award me, And everybody knows it.

00:46:38.884 --> 00:46:45.509
Most of the people know that I divide, I share my award with Angelina.

00:46:45.509 --> 00:46:48.472
To me, it's really natural.

00:46:49.233 --> 00:46:52.454
So a question I ask each time, Fabrizio, is a 10-minute question.

00:46:52.454 --> 00:46:55.438
If you had 10 minutes to practice, what would you spend those 10 minutes doing?

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Well, as I always tell to younger musicians, the key word when you put your harmonica in your mouth is honesty.

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If you are true to yourself, people will feel it.

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And don't ever try to be someone else.

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Don't try to pretend to be someone else.

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And people will appreciate it very much.

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So when you practice, try to get out your soul and show to the people at the show your soul when you perform.

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And this is something that always wins.

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And if If you play from the heart, of course, shed in your woods, you will overcome every little problem about your playing, about your going on the road to play music.

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So it doesn't matter the lick you practice, the scale you practice, but put all yourself in your music, and people, I promise, will love it.

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Bye.

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So we'll get on to the last section now and talk about gear.

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So given the fact that you were given a Hohner Lifetime Award, clearly you play Hohner harmonicas and you're actually a Hohner endorser.

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