Richard Sleigh interview

Richard Sleigh joins me on episode 138.
Richard is from Pennsylvania and is a renowned harmonica customiser, player and teacher. He tells how his great uncle Bill inspired him to pick up the harp, before discovering Irish music during his travels in Europe.
We hear about his first album Steppin’ Out, his recording with Dennis Gruenling, and his love for the Clifftop Appalachian festival.
Richard also shares the story behind his involvement with the MB30 harmonica and his customisation collaboration with Joe Filisko. Plus, we talk rack harmonica, teaching, and how he’s been “hot rodding” harmonicas for over 30 years.
Links:
Richard’s website: https://hotrodharmonicas.com/
Hot Rod Your Harmonicas - The Movie: https://hotrodharmonicas.myshopify.com/products/hot-rod-your-harmonica-videos
Richard’s Ultimate Foundation Harmonica Course: https://www.ultimateharmonica.com/p/the-ultimate-beginner-harmonica-course
Other harmonica customiser interviews: https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com/categories/harmonica-customiser/
Videos:
Paddy Fahey’s Reel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lkMs4utYpE
Cousin Sally Brown: https://youtu.be/5VaYV1CGwo4
Cuttin’ Out with Dennis Gruenling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYm8_EGaUqU
Help Me played on a rack tuition video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-U4PRMY18Y
Blues Harp Bugle tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbQMrNByJR4
Podcast website:
https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com
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Spotify Playlist:
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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5QC6RF2VTfs4iPuasJBqwT?si=M-j3IkiISeefhR7ybm9qIQ
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01:31 - Richard is from Pennsylvania, where he has lived most of his life
01:47 - Richard is renowned harmonica customiser, as well as a player and write
01:59 - Richard’s great uncle Bill played harmonica and inspired him to take up the instrument
02:59 - First started playing harmonica around age 10, having picked up the guitar age 8, and played some Dylan-style rack harmonica to being with
03:23 - Lost John by Sonny Terry really lit the torch paper when Richard was age 17 and he started playing with others
04:33 - Did some travelling in Europe on a bicycle, carrying Marine Band diatonics, a chromatic and a penny whistle
05:28 - Travelled to Ireland on this trip, which had a deep effect on Richard and the music he wanted to play
06:50 - Richard took up playing Irish music on the harmonica in a bit of vacuum, as he wasn’t aware of others doing it
07:36 - Hadn’t heard any others playing Irish music on the harmonica and then heard James Conway, who blew him away
08:30 - Richard has various Irish tunes recorded on harmonica which he has put out
09:14 - Now plays a combination of Irish and Old Timey music on harmonica and recently went to the Clifftop Appalachian String Band Music Festival in West Virginia
09:47 - David Rice was at the Clifftop festival, and Richard rates him as one of the best playing traditional tunes on harmonica
11:23 - Steppin’ Out was the first album release from Richard in 1988, put out on cassette tape
12:01 - Has recorded an album with Dennis Gruenling, where Richard plays guitar, harmonica on a rack and sings
12:48 - How got together with Dennis for the album
13:22 - Richard has been playing rack harmonica since the 1970s, and has some YouTube videos demonstrating the technique
14:03 - Key to rack to playing is to get a solid rhythm from your right arm on guitar
15:13 - Played with Bo Diddley in 1987, who was insistent that Richard didn’t play over him when he was singing
17:10 - Has also played with a couple of symphony orchestras
18:58 - Richard’s harmonica shop
19:06 - First became interested in customisation work in 1984 when attended first SPAH convention and Cham-ber Huang explained bending to Richard
19:46 - This led Richard to start working on a patent for an idea close to what became the XB40 harmonica
20:20 - How formed customisation partnership with Joe Filisko
20:53 - Discovered that Rick Epping and a few others had come up with the same idea of ‘primary and secondary reeds’ (which Rick patented)
21:50 - On the XB40 you can bend all the blow notes a semi tone and whole tone
22:30 - The differences with the 30 reed version, called the MB30, and similar to Suzuki’s SB30 model
22:55 - The MB30 was similar to the Suzuki SB30 and Richard’s involvement in the development of the the MB30
23:22 - Tom Halchak was also involved in making reed plates for the SB30
23:56 - Worked with Brendan Power and Zombor Kovacs to further develop the MB30
24:19 - Became a Hohner Affiliated Customiser
24:30 - Made fifty of the MB30s with Brendan and Zombor but the process was difficult so didn’t make any more
25:47 - Richard really loves the MB30 though and built some for himself and still plays them
27:00 - Richard would be delighted to exchange any MB30s from the people who bought the original run of 50
27:43 - The MB30 is almost the same size as a standard diatonic, whereas the XB40 is larger and has a different tone than standard diatonics
28:33 - Had been working on customisation for a long time before starting work on the MB30
28:49 - Richard’s work with Joe Filisko on the ‘Filisko Method’ diatonic harmonicas
30:33 - Richard opened a custom harmonica shop from a property his parents owned and has since been working as a harmonica customiser for over thirty years
31:06 - Richard is still in touch with Joe Filisko but not working on Filisko Method harmonicas now
31:50 - Richard developed the idea of being able to sight the harmonica reed by the use of light boxes
32:43 - Doesn’t use microscopes in customisation work as too much detail
33:05 - Welcomes the increase in harmonica customisers
34:01 - Working in harmonica customisation is not an easy way to make a living
34:07 - Harmonica customisation work has been an important source of income, alongside playing and teaching harmonica
34:34 - The basic principles followed by Richard and Joe Filisko are probably well covered by other customisers now
35:11 - Does understanding how the reed works helps your harmonica playing?
35:50 - Difference between people setting-up their harmonicas themselves and using a customiser like Richard
37:42 - Richard has a series of customisation videos to purchase called ‘Hot Rod Your Harmonica - The Movie’
39:06 - The name Hot Rod comes from Richard’s interest in vintage cars
39:57 - Still building custom Hohner Marine Band Deluxe harmonicas
40:11 - These harmonicas are not set-up for overblows as Richard doesn’t play them much as he uses the MB30 for the missing notes
40:47 - Only customises Hohner harmonicas
40:58 - Focuses on diatonic customisation
41:12 - Isn’t shipping to the EU or the UK at the moment due to the red tape involved. There are good customisers in Europe (such as Joel Andersson)
42:00 - Not doing as much customisation work as used to
42:25 - Richard’s waiting list for custom harmonicas is 6-9 months but he often completes them before then
42:44 - Has four harmonica tuition courses available: on blues, Irish, bending and Sweet Georgia Brown
43:27 - Provides evaluations of student submissions for the online Tomlin Leckie harmonica school
43:52 - An example of one of Richard’s YouTube tuition videos is on how to play a blues bugle on diatonic using arpeggios
44:48 - Also likes to write and wrote a regular article for five years for the Harmonica World magazine and sends out a monthly newsletter to his email subscribers
45:35 - Brings in elements of philosophy to his writing and how music connects him to a higher power
46:44 - Has done session work, including music for theatre productions and corporate videos where they wanted royalty free music
48:05 - Ten minute question
49:03 - Works with guitar and harmonica together, ensuring they are beautifully in tune and then work out arrangements between them
49:55 - Plays exclusively Hohner harmonicas with the Marine Band Deluxe the model of choice
50:10 - Plays some chromatic, with the older Super 64X model a favourite
50:32 - Also plays some Hohner auto-valve and Hohner Educator harmonicas
50:39 - Uses different tunings, including Paddy Richter, Country Tuned and has invented some of own tunings
50:59 - Using one tuning for one specific song is a way to navigate different tunings
51:41 - Preferred tuning system is 19-limit Just Intonation
52:15 - Plays mostly in 1st, 2nd and 3rd position but uses several more for songs as required
52:52 - Alternates between tongue blocking and lip pursing embouchre
53:11 - Uses tongue switching
53:26 - Amps of choice include a 1942 Supro and a Wahoo amp and a Kalamazoo amp
54:17 - For a clean sound uses a Fishman amp for a mini-PA and also with a Lone Wolf pedal to add distortion
54:35 - Uses custom mics from Dennis Gruenling
54:42 - Harmonica rack used
54:57 - Learned to play on an amp with no tone control which he believes helped develop his chops
55:36 - Future plans include putting out a recording of a live concert on Bandcamp and put out some more fiddle tunes played on harmonica