May 18, 2023

Marcos Coll interview

Marcos Coll interview

Marcos Coll joins me on episode 86. Marcos is a Spaniard who has been living in Berlin for the last twenty years. Marcos rose to fame at a young age on the Spanish blues scene playing with the Tonky Blues Band before forming the the Los Reyes del KO band, touring the world and sharing the stage with many famous names. Moving to Berlin in 2004, Marcos became a regular on the vibrant blues scene in Germany and recorded with many great artists. In addition to playing blues, Marcos likes to mix m...

Marcos Coll joins me on episode 86.

Marcos is a Spaniard who has been living in Berlin for the last twenty years. Marcos rose to fame at a young age on the Spanish blues scene playing with the Tonky Blues Band before forming the the Los Reyes del KO band, touring the world and sharing the stage with many famous names.

Moving to Berlin in 2004, Marcos became a regular on the vibrant blues scene in Germany and recorded with many great artists.

In addition to playing blues, Marcos likes to mix modern beats such as hip hop into the blues, as well as playing traditional Spanish and Latin music, including cutting a Latin song with Charlie Musselwhite.

Marcos has an online tuition site called Harp and Soul, has been a judge at the Trossingen World Harmonica Championship and is a regular at Seoul, and other harmonica festivals.


Links:
Marcos’s website:
https://marcoscoll.com/

Online tuition website:
http://harpandsoul.info/en

Videos:

With Los Mighty Calacas at World Harmonica Festival 2013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLcLlgcJHLU

Latin workshop at Hohner masters 2022:
https://youtu.be/9Qi0nxFsJbg

Chan Chan song, playing chord harp (and others) also effect part way thru
https://youtu.be/_sBZj8CoB6Q

Marcos rapping on basketball anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHcGFfXVTg

Harp and Soul tuition introduction:
https://youtu.be/ErHO7pI64HE

Seoul festival, playing with Antonio Serrano:
https://youtu.be/ks88GMCDj_s


Podcast website:
https://www.harmonicahappyhour.com

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https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5QC6RF2VTfs4iPuasJBqwT?si=M-j3IkiISeefhR7ybm9qIQ

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01:29 - Marcos is a Spaniard, currently living in Berlin

01:52 - Was inspired to take up harmonica from the British Blues Boom bands and American 50s rock ’n roll

02:27 - First instrument was violin, but didn’t continue with that

03:13 - Spanish music influences and blues scene in Spain, including Naco Goni

06:32 - First harmonica was a Chinese made Huang

07:08 - Starting out playing music as a teenager, which progressed into performing until late 5 nights a week

08:26 - Mother’s reaction to Marcos becoming a full-time musician

08:58 - Great training ground playing in the late night clubs in Spain where Marcos learned to entertain

09:59 - Tips on how to entertain the audience: be yourself and feel what the audience wants

10:49 - Energy Marcos puts into his performances

11:43 - A big influence on Marcos was a big festival in Spain with many famous names and the value of seeing live performances

12:51 - Moved to Madrid in 1999 joining the Tonky Blues Band and shared stage with many famous names

15:10 - Leaves singing to the great singers

15:27 - Los Reyes del KO band (The Knockout Kings) with name coming from dressing up as boxers in an early gig

16:57 - Touring with Los Reyes del KO and sharing stage with idols

17:38 - Live in Berlin album from Los Reyes del KO and Paul Butterfield influence

19:17 - Mixing modern beats like hip hop in with traditional blues

20:57 - Relocated to Berlin in 2004 and the great blues scene in Germany

23:37 - Started playing with Aron Burton in Berlin

24:30 - Under The Wings compilation album

26:17 - Hucklebuck duet with Keith Dunn

27:16 - La Paloma is a Spanish song, which Marco found was popular in Germany too

29:09 - Street Preaching album with Stefano Ronchi, mixing modern beats with blues again

30:21 - Album with Will Jacobs, a Chicago musician

31:18 - Now in a band called The Blues Jacana, Marcos’s jam band around Berlin

31:54 - Charlie Musselwhite has recorded a song on an album with Marcos with the Los Mighty Calacas band

33:33 - New album coming out in 2023, called Nomade, playing traditional Spanish music

37:07 - Going to keep the Spanish influence in his much moving forwards

38:10 - Marcos ran a Latin workshop at Trossingen

38:46 - Playing orchestral harmonicas and chromatic: not highly skilled on them but can get by

39:57 - Session work includes for a big Mexican film

41:02 - Chose harmonica over playing basketball professionally

43:14 - Teaches harmonica and online tuition course: Harp and Soul

44:58 - Been a judge at various harmonica festivals, including the World Harmonica Championship at Trossingen

46:35 - Performed at Seoul Festival, including with Antonio Serrano

47:02 - Appeared at the Harmonica FEN Festival in Berlin in 2022

47:29 - Popularity of harmonica in Asia

48:16 - 10 minute question

49:16 - Harmonica of choice: Hohner endorsee and plays Crossovers (wood) and Rockets (plastic)

49:50 - Doesn’t use customised harmonicas

49:54 - Doesn’t use overblows

50:23 - Marcos picture is on the box of Hohner Blues Bender packaging

50:58 - Different tunings: likes Harmonic Minor

51:20 - Prefers sound of a note played without an overblow

52:27 - Embouchre: uses both

53:00 - Amps: did use Fender Princeton Reverb, but now works with what’s available

53:59 - Effects pedals are now usable for harmonica tone

54:29 - Likes to add effects to his sound sometimes, including Octaver from ElectroHarmonix

55:38 - Mics: vocal mic and Hohner Harp Blaster

56:13 - Future plans

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Marcus Cole joins me on episode 86.

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Marcus is a Spaniard who has been living in Berlin for the last 20 years.

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Marcus rose to fame at a young age on the Spanish blues scene, playing with the Tonki Blues Band, before forming the Los Reos del Keol Band, touring the world and sharing the stage with many famous names.

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Moving to Berlin in 2004, Marcus became a regular on the vibrant blues scene in Germany and recorded with many great artists.

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In addition to playing blues, Marcus likes to mix modern beats such as hip-hop into the blues, as well as playing traditional Spanish and Latin music, as well as cutting a Latin song with Charlie Musselwhite.

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Marcus has an online tuition site called Harp and Soul, has been a judge at the Trossingen World Harmonica Championship, and is a regular at Soul and other harmonica festivals.

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This podcast is sponsored by Zeidel Harmonicas.

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Visit the oldest harmonica factory in the world, at www.zidel1847.com or on Facebook or Instagram at Zidel Harmonicas.

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Hello Marcus Coll and welcome to the podcast.

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Hello, it's a pleasure to be here.

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You are Spanish and now living in Berlin, but you were born in Madrid, yeah?

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Yeah, that's right.

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I grew up between Madrid and Santiago de Compostela and since almost 20 years I live in Berlin, Germany.

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It's

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good to pick up on your Spanish influences, your playing, and you brought some of that into your playing as we'll get into later, but what got you started in harmonica?

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I was reading your uncle was your first inspiration to take up the harmonica

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yeah that's right as you said i come from spain and and the background of my parents for instance was flamenco music but my parents at that time with the franco years they was trying like looking at flamenco or spanish music like associated with that which is totally not true you know but so they was listening to the rolling stones jimmy hendrix the who you know anglo music that comes from the blues so like when i was around 13 more or less i was fooling around with different instruments in fact i started with violin but i didn't like it too much and especially the the way they were teaching me anyway so my uncle is a musician too and at that time he was really into the blues and at that time i was 13 12 13 something like that and i was really into the 50s rock and roll little richard chuck berry all of that so you know the classic he went to me and told me hey if you like this you gotta hear where it comes from so that's how it was I remember listening in his room to a Reverend Gary Davies album and especially a Sonny Boy Williamson the second with Jimmy Pates and Brian Auger so that really turned me on I've really got in love with the harmonica and until now

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Did you have many sort of Spanish music influences besides the flamenco at this point?

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Yeah I mean I don't play flamenco at all I mean the only real player that I know who plays flamenco is Antonio Serrano and he plays really good by the way i mean i was listening most mostly anglo music you know rock and roll i also like punk and but obviously i grew up there and i always listen in santiago in galicia in the in the local parties you hear galician music spanish music but you also hear a lot of latin american music so i listen also when i was kid to cumbia to corridos norteñas and merengue, salsa, so it sounds familiar to me, you know, when later on I developed and more into playing more my roots music besides the blues.

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And then talking about the blues scene in Spain as well, so I believe you were influenced by a Spanish blues player called Naco Goni.

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Naco Goni

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Jaco Coñi was like, for the people, my generation, like beginning of the 90s, that we were starting playing, he was like our god, you know.

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Him and Mingo Balaguer and a very few others was like the first real blues harmonica players who could really play, not just classic guitar player who brings the harmonica for a couple tunes.

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I was crazy for him.

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He was like my idol when I was like 15 or so.

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And yeah, he influenced me a lot.

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a lot because he was playing with Malcolm Scarpa, the traditional blues, but very personal.

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Of course, obviously, the great Sonny Boy Williams, James Cotton, Walter Horton, you know, the classic blues players.

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But you did get to play with Nako.

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You've got a song, you playing big raw blues on your

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album.

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Oh, you got me crying Oh, you got me crying I'm traveling all alone, I'm traveling light, I'm traveling this big road.

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I ended up even living in the same building because I arrived with 15 to Madrid like a little kid and I want to play harmonica like you, you know, the classic thing.

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And we got along very well and we became very good friends.

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And yeah, actually we ended up living in the same building in Madrid.

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Yeah, he's like my brother.

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Did he teach you things?

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Not really like sitting down and, hey, dude, this I do it like this this I do it like that no just by by living by in fact we we talk more about boxing or other things than about blues itself but we was like leaving it there you know like like hearing it all the time we was hearing a lot of music together but not really like talking about techniques too much of course sometimes yeah but but more like feeling it

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interesting you should mention boxing there we got a link so we'll get onto that shortly but your first harmonica I think is a Horner Blues harp, was it?

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Well, not exactly.

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My first harmonica was a Huang, this Chinese brand, which some of them were pretty good.

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Because I remember I went to the store and the Horner Blues harp was like 800 pesetas, which now is like, I don't know, five euros.

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And there was a Huang for 300 pesetas, which is like two euros.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I could only afford the Huang harmonica, but my goal was to get the blues harp sooner than later.

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You

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know, going on into your progression and into music and becoming a professional, you got your first paid gig at age 17.

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Well, before, I think before, I think when I was like 15 already.

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Yeah, I started playing and like one year I started, okay, with my schoolmates.

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Come on, yeah, play guitar a little.

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Nobody in Santiago at the time played blues, like a blues band.

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I got together with some schoolmates, even Adrian Costa.

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To this day, I still play with him.

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We was kind of with a punk attitude and very funny partying.

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I So we started playing a lot almost every night in the local pubs and stuff.

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So it's like suddenly in one year I see myself playing from 9 to 4 a.m.

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five days a week and getting some money, getting free drinks and everything.

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So it's like I never thought about being professional or nothing.

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You know, we were playing in the street and suddenly I was saying like, hey, I'm playing five days a week.

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And as soon as I got 18 I said to my mother hey I think I can make it with what I'm getting doing this so I rent me a room with a friend and yeah that's how it started.

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How did your mother react when you said you were planning to be a professional harmonica player?

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She was

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very happy in one way because at least I was doing something because at that time not good in the school I was always just trying to have fun and she saw me so interested into it that she said hey at least he's doing something you know he didn't like obviously that I play until 4am in those dirty places but at least I was doing something she was happy

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That sounds like a great training ground playing from 9 till 4am it sounds like this kind of classic you know jazz musicians you know they're playing all night in clubs it sounds like you had a bit of that scene going on

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Yeah totally I mean that's what made my who I am in a way because you can imagine when those places we were playing there was no theaters or not like fancy clubs it was like wild and dirty clubs so you had to entertain those people that was rough people and you had to find your way to entertain so I developed more the entertaining thing than technique than studying theory you know because we were playing almost every day so it was playing playing playing finding ways to entertain the people and to make them laugh and and with the little technique we had.

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Yeah, that made me develop the stage knowledge.

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I've seen you play live and that is something I really noticed about you.

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You're very energetic on stage.

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You know, you could really see that you're pushing the entertainment and any tips for how to do that?

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I tell some students, for instance, or some people that you have to be like you are.

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If you're shy, that's cool too.

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There's some musicians that really make the stage full, you know, that they got a light because they are themselves so my main tip is be yourself and try to think that the people is there for having a good time and they don't care about overflows they don't care about if your microphone is crystal or you know so try to feel them you know it's like for instance even to this day in big festivals I don't do set list because I'm gonna not respect it at the end because I'm seeing what the people kind of like okay they like more funky maybe they like more slow songs you know so to feel the people to try to read the audience that's my main

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tip what about the energy levels you know is that something you'll try and keep very high energy levels or you know you're happy to sort of bring it down and slow it down and you know you're reading the crowd in that way so how do you approach that

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It's cool to play fast tunes and everything.

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We put all the energy, sweating and dancing and blah, blah, blah.

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But if you play a slow song, especially a slow blues, like, but with energy, oh, people really react to that.

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they really feel it.

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You know, even whatever country in the world or whatever, it's like, it's not about the language, it's not about the style of music.

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It's like, if you play it with all your heart, somehow they feel it and they get to it.

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I gotta say, also one thing that really influenced me and made a big change in 93, 92 and 93, we had the chance when we was 14, 15 to see like B.B.

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King three times, Charles Brown, Ray Charles, Prince the Rolling Stones, Sting, Lucky Peters.

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I don't know.

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It was like every day, something on that level.

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I mean, there was one concert that we saw.

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It was in La Coruña, in the Deportivo La Coruña Stadium.

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The first day, imagine being 15-year-old, and the first day you see Sting, Neil Young, Chris Isaac, and George Benson.

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The next day starts the Kings, then Bob Dylan, then Robert Plant, and then John Mayall.

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And the third day, Eric Barton, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Wilson Pickett, and Jerry Lee Lewis.

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So that was a huge influence for us.

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Yeah, really sure.

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Seeing live music is a big inspiration, yeah?

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Yeah, for me, it's the best inspiration.

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What you're going to learn seeing somebody live, you don't learn in any video or any book or nothing.

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It's a magic.

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I was reading that you moved to Madrid in 1999, age 21, joining the top The biggest blues band in Spain at the time.

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So this was your move to sort of go fully pro, was it?

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Yeah, I mean, at that time in Santiago, there was not really many blues players.

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And Madrid had a pretty good blues scene at that time.

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Now it's even much better, much bigger.

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And yeah, I had records from Tonki Blues Band and Ñaco Ogoñi was the former harmonica player of Tonki Blues Band.

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You know, at that time, it was very crazy that I could sleep whatever, you know, if we If I had to sleep in the street, no problem, whatever.

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So I said, I go to Madrid and I want to learn more and learn from Nyako, learn from Tonki and everything.

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There, I arrived there.

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And soon, I was lucky that in three months or so, Tonki called me to do some gigs.

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And well, he liked how I played, what I was giving to the band.

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He made me a full-time member.

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And after one year, we was backing up Buddy Miles.

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mick taylor from the rolling stones i didn't have time to process it you know i was like okay cool oh yeah nick in two months we play with with mick taylor oh okay cool now i think it and i said like what you know

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actually you mentioned buddy miles so he was a drummer with jimmy hendrix right so these are the sort of names you're playing like you said when you're that young you probably don't quite appreciate these things

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i appreciate a lot because as i tell you i mean since i was a kid i had records i was never a me toman that oh you No, but like, you know, I had a lot of respect for the old blues players from the, you know, from the top musicians.

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So I really had that respect.

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Don't get me wrong.

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It's not like, oh, yeah, I'm playing this.

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No.

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But yeah, it's like everything goes so fast that you don't have time to assimilate, to process it.

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Now I realize how it helped me develop my style or my musicality or whatever, just being with them and touring with them.

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You were the harmonica player with them.

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You weren't singing or anything else.

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No, no, I was just playing harmonica.

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You know, I was singing with my first band and then I realized to sing the blues, no, that's not, maybe you cannot really do it.

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So I stick to the harmonica.

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Great.

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So you had a great success earlier on when you were young.

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And I think your next band then was your first main early band, Los Reyes del Cayo.

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Yeah.

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This stands for the Knockout Kings.

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So interesting story.

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And the boxing connection from earlier on is that you had to play a gig in a sort of boxing venue and you had to dress up like boxers.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, that's me and one of these kids that I was telling you before from the school that we started playing together.

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Later on, after I was two years in Madrid, I talked to Tonki.

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Hey man, I got a friend.

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He made him join the band too.

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And after another year or so, we decided to make our own band because he's like my brother, you know.

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We was on the same page.

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We really like boxing, both of us.

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So they hired us to play in a box in event and we had a lot of contact with professional boxers so then one day we decided like hey why don't we dress like boxers and we do this show like with a presentation like and yeah and we got us even an endorsement with a boxing brand and that they gave us like all this the gear and the gloves and the trunks now I wouldn't do it you know to go on stage dressed like a boxer you know I would feel very embarrassed but at that time it was fun and yeah and people liked it.

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But you didn't play the harmonica wearing boxing gloves, did you, Marcus?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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That's for sure.

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Yeah, that might get an interesting new sound, playing

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boxing gloves.

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Well, that's how good war work is.

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Yeah, brilliant.

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So, you know, with this outfit, you had a great success playing with Buddy Guy and Chuck Berry and John Mayle and Fabulous Thunderbirds.

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Yeah, we started doing big festivals, especially in Spain, because we got kind of famous in Spain in Spain, in the blues scene, but also crossover to the rock scene.

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You know, we was hired to play even rock festivals or pop festivals because, you know, the boxing thing and everything, we was making party and we was playing like up-tempo blues, funky blues.

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So yeah, we was getting very good festivals and yeah, we had the chance to share the stage with our idols.

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And so the first album I discovered of you is the live album in Berlin that you did.

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with Los Reyes del Queo, which is a fantastic album and loads of great, you know, high energy stuff and, you know, nice long solos.

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Born in Santiago is a song which is interesting on there.

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So this is from the Paul Butterfield song Born in Chicago.

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Yeah, your take

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on it.

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I was born in Santiago in 1979

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So, you know, we always like the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

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I'm a big fan of Paul Butterfield because my favorite harmonica players are the ones like Charlie Marcel White, like, of course, the old blues legends that you hear two notes and you know that it's them.

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And Paul Butterfield is like that.

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I love the first albums from Paul Butterfield.

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They are great.

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But what I love most is when he had the horns and he was playing like American music, soul mixed with funk.

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Oh, I really...

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Or the Life album, Life at...

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love that i love his sound his style and and he was a very big influence for us that was our goal you know to make something because For us, that sounded fresh.

00:19:04.507 --> 00:19:08.009
You know, it sounded like very personal or like war.

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You know, it was like a mix between war and the Paul Butterfield better days.

00:19:13.454 --> 00:19:17.137
And of course, the old traditional black American blues.

00:19:17.439 --> 00:19:22.962
So a really interesting thing that you do is you mix modern music into the blues that you do.

00:19:23.022 --> 00:19:27.126
So on the album Hot Tin Roof with this band, kind of got hip hop beats in there.

00:19:27.166 --> 00:19:28.708
There's some rapping on there.

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Everything, mi corazón Thank

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you.

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You know, what

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about bringing that sort of music in with kind of blues and harmonica?

00:19:50.815 --> 00:19:56.259
We always liked a lot of different music from flamenco to punk to hip-hop, of course.

00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:02.664
So hip-hop and blues is kind of the same in a way, you know, for Afro-Americans.

00:20:02.924 --> 00:20:06.147
It's their culture and it's the evolution.

00:20:06.588 --> 00:20:16.018
We had a friend from Detroit that was in the studio and and hey come on why don't you rap something here and we liked it and yeah that's how we ended up

00:20:16.298 --> 00:20:32.134
yeah no I think it's a great thing to do it really brings the harmonica into a modern set and I think a lot of you know a lot of people are yeah it would be great to hear some harmonica and the sort of you know hip-hop and other modern things so yeah it's fantastic to do that so you found it quite easy to sort of bring those people in to play with you and they were quite happy to do it

00:20:32.315 --> 00:20:57.402
yeah I mean hip-hop people always respect and love the blues every time you propose them something they are up to it you know in other productions that i did with other rappers or what the other way around there's many blues players that are hip-hop that's part of music and blah blah blah you know but the hip-hop people normally 99.9 percent they they love the blues

00:20:57.761 --> 00:21:04.410
and then in 2004 you moved to berlin so so what caused the move to berlin and to germany away from spain

00:21:04.690 --> 00:21:15.741
what it happened for me from to move from santiago to madrid after those years it's like Like we knew all the blues players in Spain already.

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We had done all the festivals.

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It was like there was nothing much more to do like new, you know, like we wanted to keep on learning and getting better and better and better.

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So suddenly we got a request from a festival next to Munich.

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Really, this was like kind of a crazy thing, you know, was there in Almeria.

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That's the desert in Spain playing a festival.

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And we start seeing that blues clubs in Germany and everything.

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By the internet, that was the first years of really looking things in the internet.

00:21:49.037 --> 00:21:56.464
We say like, wow, Germany looks, they really appreciate the blues and that there's a lot of blues clubs and festivals and stuff.

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So, hey, if they hired us for this festival and they didn't see us, they just heard the record, which was a thousand times much better live than in records.

00:22:06.095 --> 00:22:10.259
Hey, if we go there and we do our thing, I'm sure we can work.

00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:16.246
And, you know, as Spanish, we were thinking, and yeah, and Germany, they got more money, you know.

00:22:16.666 --> 00:22:22.532
So it was like the ticket, we bought the ticket one way and we say like, come on, let's go there.

00:22:22.772 --> 00:22:24.015
It was at the end of the summer.

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We didn't have more festivals booked and say, come on, let's go there and try.

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And that's what we did.

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Great.

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And you've stayed there ever since.

00:22:31.041 --> 00:22:35.227
So you found a good source to be able to play your music in Berlin and around Germany then, obviously.

00:22:35.586 --> 00:22:35.967
Yeah.

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I mean, when we arrived, there was a lot of black American blues mainly living here, like Guitar Crusher.

00:22:57.320 --> 00:22:59.944
Champion Jack Dufresne was living here, Luciana Red.

00:23:00.417 --> 00:23:11.326
We were amazed with the scene in Germany because, you know, in Germany, in Europe, Northern Europe, they had the American Fall Blues Festival since the 60s.

00:23:11.567 --> 00:23:17.792
So they knew much more about the blues and about this culture than pain at that time.

00:23:18.153 --> 00:23:25.380
Now it got more even, but at that time it was like, wow, so many blues clubs, so many in every little town, they got a blues festival.

00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:36.219
There's a lot of Afro-Americans living here that find good drummers, good bass players and and everything so so yeah it was like wow great we are in the the right place

00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:43.198
yeah fantastic and so was the first person you picked up with aaron burton

00:23:55.329 --> 00:23:58.212
Oh yeah, Aaron Barton was living in Berlin.

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He's a legendary bass player.

00:24:01.275 --> 00:24:05.979
He recorded with Carrie Bell, with Junior West, with Albert Collins and the Icebreakers.

00:24:06.058 --> 00:24:09.041
So that kind of people, it was normal to meet them.

00:24:09.301 --> 00:24:12.065
In Spain, you always had concerts like, okay, B.B.

00:24:12.085 --> 00:24:17.890
King comes to play or whoever, but you didn't have so much interaction because they wasn't living there.

00:24:18.109 --> 00:24:24.816
But this musician was living here in Berlin, so you could play with them, you could be friends with them and that changed a lot.

00:24:24.836 --> 00:24:28.058
And so we decided to stay I mean I'm still here so

00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:40.112
yeah great and you've got a great album out which is a kind of compilation called Under the Wings which is a double album which covers you playing with all sorts of different people and including some of the names you've already mentioned

00:24:40.332 --> 00:24:56.690
that's an album that is like a compilation it's a double CD album that I did already more than 10 years ago I just took a lot of recordings that I had that some were previously released some not like half was previously released the other half note.

00:24:57.029 --> 00:25:03.135
I have one or two songs with Aaron Barton, with the people that I worked with in those years.

00:25:03.477 --> 00:25:15.328
And yeah, luckily, well, Tonki, the leader of the Tonki Blues band, he let me use one of the recordings that we record with Buddy Miles, another that we record with Nick Taylor.

00:25:15.509 --> 00:25:27.243
And yeah, I did a compilation to have a remembering of all those years and to put all those people together that has the name of the album say they took me under their wings.

00:25:27.423 --> 00:25:30.529
Yeah, so picking out some of the names, we mentioned a few on here.

00:25:30.691 --> 00:25:35.299
You're playing a song called Commonine, which is an Afro-funk band.

00:25:38.025 --> 00:25:39.688
Yeah.

00:25:43.521 --> 00:25:49.867
Yeah,

00:25:50.407 --> 00:25:56.894
that's the band from Carlos Dalelane, that is Mozambique musician that lives here since many years.

00:25:57.114 --> 00:26:00.656
And he was the bass player from Los Reyes for a while.

00:26:00.696 --> 00:26:04.500
We was always hanging in different situations.

00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:09.044
And sometimes we was even in Congo together playing at jazz festivals.

00:26:09.324 --> 00:26:17.012
I said like, hey, I would like to have a little of this also on that record you know yeah it's an afrobeat song from his country

00:26:17.473 --> 00:26:39.708
and then you do a song with keith dunn you'd play the hooker book with keith dunn there's a sort of harmonica duet so you know so what about Keith Dunne he's an American when did you meet him?

00:26:39.988 --> 00:27:12.160
He lives in not in Germany in Holland but it's more or less the same you know like he lives six hours from me we had the chance to meet this kind of musicians you know and Keith is one of my favorite blues players you know I really love the way he his timing his sound I mean when he play alone it's incredible just him and his harmonica his foot as a friend he's a great friend you know we hang a lot, you know, talking about basketball for hours and hours, about boxing too.

00:27:12.320 --> 00:27:16.086
Big fan of him, plus he's a brother, you know, his family.

00:27:16.126 --> 00:27:21.195
And then you do a bit of traditional Spanish music, La Paloma, on this

00:27:24.582 --> 00:27:27.426
album too.

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...

00:27:36.354 --> 00:27:43.961
Yeah, I mean, La Paloma is funny because when we arrived to Germany, I remember we was playing the first gig we ever played there.

00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.743
It was in München in a blues club that is called The Hideout.

00:27:47.943 --> 00:27:51.207
So for us, we were nervous to see the reaction of the people.

00:27:51.646 --> 00:27:59.574
You know, we knew the reaction in Spain, but we always were putting some songs like that in our repertoire that in a traditional blues thing, they wouldn't fit.

00:27:59.834 --> 00:28:04.898
Or for a very purist blues audience, they would say, hey, what are they doing playing this?

00:28:05.398 --> 00:28:09.323
So we said like, oh, okay, should we play La Paloma like we always did in Spain?

00:28:09.644 --> 00:28:10.423
Okay, come on, let's go.

00:28:10.585 --> 00:28:14.608
So we played and we see that the people goes crazy and we are like, really?

00:28:14.628 --> 00:28:17.531
It looks like this song works in Germany.

00:28:17.811 --> 00:28:26.320
You know, the same day later on, they told us that it's a very famous song in Germany from the 40s because it was on a movie.

00:28:26.361 --> 00:28:27.782
So everybody know the song.

00:28:27.863 --> 00:28:53.931
So everybody went crazy to see a blues band doing it in, we was doing it kind of in Habanera mixed with New Orleans beat in a way suddenly from that day we became known as the hey did you hear these guys from Spain the blues band that they play La Paloma so it was like our our hit many times we say yeah La Paloma is this song that was putting food on our table in when we arrived to Germany

00:28:54.211 --> 00:28:58.855
yeah fantastic and I think those traditional songs do sound great on the harmonica too don't they so it's good to hear them

00:28:59.115 --> 00:28:59.477
yeah

00:28:59.737 --> 00:29:06.825
yeah so as you said this is a great double album you have a great mixture of different you know styles and through your career so really good double album people to check out.

00:29:07.444 --> 00:29:14.492
So another album you've done is an album called Street Preaching, which you released with Stefano Ranchi, who's an Italian guitarist and singer.

00:29:14.553 --> 00:29:18.877
So again, similarly, you're sort of mixing blues with more modern beats on this one.

00:29:19.357 --> 00:29:25.825
Yeah, Stefano is a musician from Italy that arrived in Berlin like 10 years ago.

00:29:25.865 --> 00:29:39.981
He played mostly, I mean, he studied jazz, he played everything, but he's mostly like favorite stylists like the Delta Blues with slide, but he also like love hip So we started playing duo here in Berlin and in Spain.

00:29:40.241 --> 00:29:45.589
So we said, hey, come on, let's put here some scratches or some hip hop beat.

00:29:45.670 --> 00:29:51.057
Then I call a rapper from Angola who lives here in Berlin and we made that album.

00:29:51.317 --> 00:29:51.518
Yeah.

00:29:51.638 --> 00:29:56.766
And there's a great song on there called Hip Hop.

00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:09.813
That's an experiment we were doing.

00:30:10.653 --> 00:30:16.642
We hear it now and we would say, okay, maybe we would have done things different.

00:30:16.682 --> 00:30:21.167
But I think it was a good way to start trying things, you know.

00:30:21.489 --> 00:30:27.676
And then you did an album with Will Jacobs, who's a Chicago player, called Taking Our Time.

00:30:36.849 --> 00:30:37.150
Taking Our Time

00:30:42.241 --> 00:30:45.164
That's the last album that I released.

00:30:45.605 --> 00:30:51.130
And yeah, Will is a guy from Chicago, a musician from Chicago, great musician, great singer.

00:30:51.230 --> 00:30:53.111
He also plays every instrument.

00:30:53.171 --> 00:30:55.733
In fact, in this record, he also recorded drums and bass.

00:30:56.074 --> 00:31:01.097
Yeah, I mean, he's been playing blues in the Chicago Blues Club since he was 13.

00:31:01.618 --> 00:31:05.481
And yeah, we've been playing since seven years already.

00:31:05.642 --> 00:31:08.724
And yeah, we really enjoy playing together.

00:31:08.865 --> 00:31:10.886
And yeah, we do tour this summer.

00:31:11.186 --> 00:31:15.365
We got some festivals and we play a lot here in Berlin because he lives in Berlin.

00:31:15.728 --> 00:31:17.940
And yeah, it's another of my projects.

00:31:18.498 --> 00:31:21.740
Your main band now, the Blues Durana.

00:31:22.260 --> 00:31:29.548
Yeah, when I play here, especially here in Berlin, like under my name, that I mix like blues with Latin, with funk.

00:31:29.928 --> 00:31:35.772
That's like my jam band, you know, my band that I do the clubs and everything.

00:31:35.813 --> 00:31:38.095
Durana means fiesta in Spanish.

00:31:38.154 --> 00:31:42.219
So it's like the blues fiesta of Marcos.

00:31:42.239 --> 00:31:49.825
And they invite different players, guests, and we have a residency on Wednesdays here in Berlin.

00:31:50.086 --> 00:31:51.467
Checked out an album of theirs.

00:31:51.487 --> 00:31:53.368
They seem to have Charlie Musselwhite playing with them.

00:31:53.388 --> 00:31:54.009
Is that right?

00:31:54.611 --> 00:31:55.070
Yeah, yeah.

00:31:55.111 --> 00:31:56.732
That's with Los Mighty Calacas.

00:31:56.792 --> 00:32:00.557
Los Mighty Calacas is a band that I formed with Emiliano Juarez.

00:32:00.576 --> 00:32:03.359
Emiliano Juarez was also a guitar player from Los Reyes de Cao.

00:32:03.380 --> 00:32:06.542
He's from Mexico and he's also family to me.

00:32:07.203 --> 00:32:16.713
And after touring a lot in Mexico, we ended up many times in the fiestas in Mexico where you hear cumbia, where you hear norteñas and everything.

00:32:16.973 --> 00:32:21.078
So we decided to form a band in Mexico with Mexican musicians.

00:32:21.338 --> 00:32:24.682
Yeah, mixing blues with Mexican music, Latin music.

00:32:24.923 --> 00:32:29.387
Yeah, Charlie is one of the nicest persons that I know in this business.

00:32:29.528 --> 00:32:34.393
I'm a big fan of his music, but also a big fan of his personality.

00:32:34.432 --> 00:32:40.318
Talking with him, hey man, now I'm doing this new band and everything.

00:32:40.358 --> 00:32:42.682
And hey, send me something.

00:32:42.741 --> 00:32:44.703
I'm curious because he loves Latin music.

00:32:45.003 --> 00:32:48.327
I mean, as you know, he recorded with Elia de Sotoa and all these people.

00:32:48.367 --> 00:32:51.471
So he asked me to, hey, send me some songs, man.

00:32:51.530 --> 00:32:52.833
And he really liked it.

00:32:53.153 --> 00:33:05.424
Said like, yeah, if we do pretty good, and one day we got a nice recording deal, and I could pay you, maybe you would feel like putting some harmonica on one of the tracks.

00:33:05.625 --> 00:33:07.788
And he just said, hey, send me the track, man.

00:33:08.288 --> 00:33:10.971
It was one of his signature solos.

00:33:11.392 --> 00:33:11.551
Are

00:33:12.132 --> 00:33:13.173
you playing on the same track?

00:33:13.433 --> 00:33:17.397
Yeah, I'm playing like the feels, and then he do the solo.

00:33:33.730 --> 00:33:38.238
So yeah, so then I believe you have a new album coming out this July called Nomads.

00:33:38.369 --> 00:33:39.171
Oh, yes.

00:33:40.090 --> 00:33:44.955
It's an album that is coming out in Galileo Music with this record company.

00:33:45.355 --> 00:33:49.058
It took me like two years and a half or so to do it.

00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:55.545
Produced by Jairo Zavala and he also, him and his musicians playing the record.

00:33:55.765 --> 00:34:05.272
His band is called De Pedro, which is a very famous artist in Spain in the pop scene, but pop always with a lot of roots music.

00:34:05.653 --> 00:34:09.318
We know since more than 20 years We are good friends.

00:34:09.739 --> 00:34:23.103
While I was recording for his album like three years ago, he told me that he wanted to produce me an album in traditional music, but Spanish traditional music, Galician music, music from La Mancha.

00:34:23.485 --> 00:34:30.398
So yeah, he asked me to go deep into my roots, the songs I was hearing from my grandmas, the songs I heard everywhere.

00:34:30.561 --> 00:34:59.675
always in where i grew up yeah i'm really excited and and grateful for this album so i took uh yeah music from galicia music from la mancha also some latin music also a little touch of mexican and and i did like like the name of the album says this nomad is kind of like who i am you know i live in in galicia then my family come from la mancha but i born in Madrid and in Germany.

00:34:59.775 --> 00:35:02.858
I was also living in Mexico, in the States.

00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.643
So it's a mix of my influences that I was getting on all these years.

00:35:08.023 --> 00:35:10.965
But great, again, to get harmonica in those traditional settings.

00:35:11.025 --> 00:35:12.746
So did you already know these songs?

00:35:12.827 --> 00:35:13.568
Did you have to learn them?

00:35:13.907 --> 00:35:17.751
How do you approach playing more traditional Spanish music on the harmonica?

00:35:17.992 --> 00:35:19.753
Depends on the type of style.

00:35:20.032 --> 00:35:33.023
For instance, for cumbia or a lot of Latin American music, I try to get inspiration from the accordion player or the horn section, because there are almost no references on harmonica, you know.

00:35:33.284 --> 00:35:36.800
For instance, Vamos palpiripipao, that's a Mexican norteña.

00:35:50.498 --> 00:35:58.161
Then I have a bolero too, which is La Feitunera, but that's like a bolero mixed with La Mancha music, with the deep Spanish music.

00:35:58.483 --> 00:36:01.753
Then also for the Galician music, the Galician is...

00:36:02.146 --> 00:36:06.369
where I grew up in Santiago, more close to Celtic music.

00:36:06.449 --> 00:36:10.313
It's that Celtic culture with the same as in France, in La Bretagne.

00:36:10.672 --> 00:36:13.755
It's mostly, first of all, 6-8 timing.

00:36:14.115 --> 00:36:18.340
Normally in Latin, in cumbia or in blues, of course, you go 4-4.

00:36:19.121 --> 00:36:25.045
So I had to kind of study a little how to do the solos in 6-8, how to...

00:36:25.525 --> 00:36:28.449
It goes close to Irish music.

00:36:28.568 --> 00:36:36.777
It's try to get influences from pipe In Galicia they use a lot of pipes, violins, accordion too of course.

00:36:50.594 --> 00:36:53.195
Tambourines is very typical in Galicia.

00:36:53.577 --> 00:36:59.702
The woman's playing like six, seven tambourines at the same time and playing and singing a cappella.

00:37:00.362 --> 00:37:05.106
And that song is tambourines and tambor and just harmonica.

00:37:05.146 --> 00:37:06.887
That was like some experiment.

00:37:07.168 --> 00:37:11.192
So do you think you'll bring more of these influences into your playing after this album as well?

00:37:11.211 --> 00:37:13.954
Or are you going to return back to solidly playing blues?

00:37:14.275 --> 00:37:20.559
That's the direction I'm going to take from now on, which I'm in fact already playing...

00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:23.844
any of those songs in my blues.

00:37:24.184 --> 00:37:29.329
Of course, I'm always going to be in love with the blues and always will like to play blues.

00:37:29.750 --> 00:37:31.891
Like we were saying before, I don't sing.

00:37:32.192 --> 00:37:34.735
So I like to play with real blues, man.

00:37:34.815 --> 00:37:39.860
I mean, with, you know, with people who can sing blues right and play it right.

00:37:40.181 --> 00:37:46.788
And I love to be backing them up and or, you know, doing duets with them, with my blues harmonica.

00:37:47.068 --> 00:37:55.338
But like for my music, for my compositions, I prefer to take that direction of my real roots uh from spain it's

00:37:55.438 --> 00:38:13.764
great to hear you know i think it's great you know you're pushing harmonica in that direction you know there's a lot of blues harmonica right so it's great to hear some some new approaches some new genres and you know to get a different flavor of harmonica for sure so yeah you're always going to play the blues right so it's nice to bring that uh to bring that latin flavor and you actually did a latin workshop at trossingen not too long ago didn't you

00:38:14.085 --> 00:38:31.010
yeah last summer in in the harmonica masters a lot of great players was there and yeah i did my my approach to latin music which is not like hey i i know about Latin music on harmonica because I'm also learning it.

00:38:31.130 --> 00:38:35.443
So what I was teaching was like my approach to it, my way of seeing it.

00:38:36.097 --> 00:38:36.778
Yeah, great.

00:38:36.878 --> 00:38:38.539
And so, yeah, there's some clips on YouTube.

00:38:38.619 --> 00:38:44.025
I'll put a few links on so people can check that out as well for people who are interested in some of the different Latin styles that you've mentioned.

00:38:44.065 --> 00:38:45.867
So, yeah, that's a great approach.

00:38:45.887 --> 00:38:54.675
And another nice YouTube video I've got of you playing a song called Chan Chan, which is you playing various harmonicas, bass, chord, chromatic, diatonic.

00:38:54.715 --> 00:38:55.996
So it's a kind of one man.

00:38:56.056 --> 00:39:00.842
Well, you've got some drum beat with you, but basically it's a kind of one man show you playing different harmonicas.

00:39:04.846 --> 00:39:04.925
Yeah.

00:39:06.050 --> 00:39:06.398
you

00:39:14.561 --> 00:39:28.574
But yeah, that's bass harmonica, chord harmonica, chromatic harmonica, and diatonic, which I gotta say, I'm not a bass harmonica player, a chord harmonica player, even a chromatic harmonica player.

00:39:28.634 --> 00:39:36.340
I use the chromatic harmonica a lot in the Latin music, but I don't consider myself a great chromatic harmonica player at all.

00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.103
I use it with my limitations.

00:39:39.443 --> 00:39:41.965
I can play good enough to play that song.

00:39:42.085 --> 00:39:47.451
I can fool around with the bass harmonica and the chord harmonica, but they are so different to play.

00:39:47.510 --> 00:39:56.681
I mean, first of all, the bass harmonica, you just blow, and to get this sound good is so complicated that, yeah, I would love to play it better, but yeah, it's how it is.

00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:01.025
So you've done quite a lot of session work as well as playing with all these different great musicians you have.

00:40:01.106 --> 00:40:06.911
So you did this song, which is a Mexican block busker called Suave Patrias.

00:40:07.391 --> 00:40:17.083
Yeah, it's a movie, a very famous movie from 10 years ago in Mexico, and And now they just use one of my songs for it.

00:40:17.824 --> 00:40:20.606
And well, that's always good for some royalties.

00:40:21.568 --> 00:40:21.648
Yeah.

00:40:21.688 --> 00:40:24.150
So how did you get a song in a Mexican film?

00:40:24.471 --> 00:40:34.440
I was spending like three months at least in Mexico a year playing with my band with Los Mighty Calacas or playing blues festivals because there's also a blues scene.

00:40:34.862 --> 00:40:38.826
And the director of this movie, he's a blues freak.

00:40:38.865 --> 00:40:39.887
He loves blues.

00:40:40.027 --> 00:40:40.947
He also plays bass.

00:40:41.708 --> 00:40:42.809
So he saw us.

00:40:42.849 --> 00:40:56.485
He really liked what we was doing with los reyes so he fell in love with the band and he yeah i want to have los reyes in my new movie blah blah blah and he chose one of my songs and yeah i'm happy for it

00:40:56.905 --> 00:41:02.010
and you also had another song which became the anthem of the basketball team that you played with in your youth

00:41:02.351 --> 00:41:17.887
when i started playing music i was really into basketball playing competition and everything i wanted to be professional player what happened that then when i was 16 17 i had to choose between playing from 9 or 10 till 4 a.m.

00:41:18.347 --> 00:41:19.148
and the trainings.

00:41:19.449 --> 00:41:20.090
You know what I mean?

00:41:20.630 --> 00:41:22.932
It was a very easy choice at that time, you know?

00:41:23.353 --> 00:41:31.521
You had free beers, girls again giving you attention, party and everything, or a trainer making you sweat.

00:41:32.382 --> 00:41:34.344
So I choose music, obviously.

00:41:34.606 --> 00:41:44.335
But I always kept my love for basketball and especially this team from Santiago, which is a team of the town and we are very proud of.

00:41:44.335 --> 00:42:07.432
it and i went to the arena since since i'm a kid a very good friend with the actual trainer and with play i'm always involved a little there and so one day i just i had some studio time for free and i'd say come on let's try this with a hip-hop beat a little and and i started rapping some verses about team and about the basketball and

00:42:11.650 --> 00:42:13.891
You

00:42:21.619 --> 00:42:32.108
know, I just did it for fun and they liked it and sometimes they still put it, because that was like 10 years ago, sometimes they still put it in the games and that makes me happy too.

00:42:32.188 --> 00:42:34.210
And that's good also for the royalties.

00:42:35.411 --> 00:42:36.431
I have met you once.

00:42:36.472 --> 00:42:37.592
I don't remember you being 7'6".

00:42:37.612 --> 00:42:37.873
No,

00:42:38.833 --> 00:42:40.014
no, no, no, no.

00:42:40.114 --> 00:42:44.838
See, that was one of the reasons So now I'm like 182, something like that.

00:42:45.259 --> 00:42:53.485
And I said, look, I love the game, but I'm never going to make it that they even give me real money for it.

00:42:54.027 --> 00:42:57.909
On the other hand, every night they're giving me money here playing the harmonica.

00:42:58.210 --> 00:43:03.934
Well, and I also said like, hey, harmonica, you can play it until you're 80 or 90.

00:43:04.054 --> 00:43:06.777
And, you know, I was looking at the old bluesmen.

00:43:07.157 --> 00:43:10.701
But basketball, when you're 35, 40 at the most, you're gone.

00:43:10.820 --> 00:43:11.481
So, hey.

00:43:11.713 --> 00:43:12.878
Yeah, good choice.

00:43:12.898 --> 00:43:13.679
You made the right choice.

00:43:13.721 --> 00:43:16.329
So you also do teaching.

00:43:16.369 --> 00:43:20.824
You've taught particularly various festivals and around schools in Spain.

00:43:20.864 --> 00:43:24.956
And you've got an online harmonica course called Harp and Soul.

00:43:25.217 --> 00:43:30.081
Yeah, I really like teaching when the situation is nice.

00:43:30.623 --> 00:43:31.402
I really love it.

00:43:32.063 --> 00:43:35.967
Many festivals, I do like blues festivals.

00:43:35.987 --> 00:43:39.871
They also hire me to do some things for the kids in the morning.

00:43:39.931 --> 00:43:41.251
And I really like it.

00:43:41.371 --> 00:43:42.012
It's fun.

00:43:42.152 --> 00:43:44.635
It makes me have a good time.

00:43:44.795 --> 00:43:50.360
I love to see people when they get amazed by, but, oh, how do you do this?

00:43:50.539 --> 00:43:53.702
Because normally I put them to play like a train at the beginning.

00:43:53.842 --> 00:43:54.603
Oh, wow.

00:43:54.704 --> 00:43:58.918
And to You see the kids' reaction and also the old people.

00:43:58.938 --> 00:44:04.940
Yeah, and I have this harmonica course online that they can visit it on my website.

00:44:05.346 --> 00:44:06.467
It's a link there.

00:44:06.666 --> 00:44:08.708
It's harpalsoul.info.

00:44:09.128 --> 00:44:13.773
And yeah, there I teach from zero to kind of like intermediate level.

00:44:13.913 --> 00:44:16.255
And this I did also like 10 years ago.

00:44:16.735 --> 00:44:23.902
Yeah, I kind of did like the book that I didn't have when I was studying, that was not available, that they teach me.

00:44:24.001 --> 00:44:27.224
I mean, my first book that I had for harmonica was the Steve Baker book.

00:44:27.545 --> 00:44:54.211
And it was like, wow, you know, a book that talks about amplifiers and about the famous musicians and about microphones and so I kind of like had that reference that influence and I said okay I'm going to try to do this in video you know and yeah talk about amplifiers microphones historical players and just starting from how to hold the harmonica to also how to repair it how to tune it try to do it as much complete as possible

00:44:54.532 --> 00:45:05.804
yeah I'll put the link on to the podcast place for sure so people find that so you've attended various of the harmonica festivals as well so you've been a jury member at the Trussingen World Harmonica Festival.

00:45:06.126 --> 00:45:08.231
So you were judging in the competition there, weren't you?

00:45:08.592 --> 00:45:15.572
Yeah, I was judging a couple of times in the World Harmonica Festival with all these harmonica festivals.

00:45:15.592 --> 00:45:16.173
Now I did...

00:45:17.730 --> 00:45:23.474
I wouldn't say a lot, but I did quite a few, you know, in Asia and in Korea.

00:45:23.494 --> 00:45:25.237
I also was judging in Korea.

00:45:25.637 --> 00:45:27.057
And it's always the same.

00:45:27.157 --> 00:45:36.186
I gotta say that every professional harmonica player, when I hear them, I always think, oh, he plays better than me.

00:45:36.206 --> 00:45:40.610
He got much more technique than me, you know, because he do things different than me.

00:45:40.750 --> 00:45:42.711
So, you know, I'm humble in that way.

00:45:42.771 --> 00:45:47.695
I can be very cocky on the stage, but I'm a very humble person on real life.

00:45:47.695 --> 00:45:56.440
And I always think, every time I was there judging, it was like, damn, oof, but this guy kicks my ass.

00:45:57.061 --> 00:46:00.003
Next one, oh man, he also would kick my ass.

00:46:00.463 --> 00:46:13.576
I mean, I had to be judging, for instance, I had to be judging a lot of people who today they are top harmonica players, like known harmonica players and that they have a career.

00:46:13.956 --> 00:46:21.882
I'm not going to start saying names so I don't let others behind, but so I was like, every time it's like, what am I doing here?

00:46:21.922 --> 00:46:31.193
But Well, on the other hand, hey, I got my things, you know, and at least I got three decades of career, which that counts for something.

00:46:31.894 --> 00:46:32.594
No, definitely not.

00:46:32.936 --> 00:46:35.498
It's a tough job, but yeah, you did well.

00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:43.208
And you played at Seoul Festival four times, including with Antonio Serrano, who you mentioned, who, of course, is a Spanish player and, of course, an amazing chromatic player.

00:46:43.248 --> 00:46:46.172
So you got a nice little duo with Antonio in Seoul.

00:46:55.041 --> 00:46:55.773
Thank you.

00:47:02.402 --> 00:47:06.505
And you played last year at the Harmonica Fend Festival with Marko Jovanovic.

00:47:06.786 --> 00:47:08.447
Also, yeah.

00:47:08.507 --> 00:47:22.619
I mean, I love the harmonica festivals because, you know, when you grow up, like only having one little booklet that was showing you how to play or Susanna and the only harmonica player in town was you and another one.

00:47:22.780 --> 00:47:25.202
To go to these festivals is great.

00:47:25.262 --> 00:47:30.887
You know, it's like it still amazes me and it still excites me, especially in Asia.

00:47:30.907 --> 00:47:32.367
It's like it's another world.

00:47:32.367 --> 00:47:33.989
It's like crazy.

00:47:34.409 --> 00:47:37.914
There in Asia, for instance, in Korea, the harmonica is a normal instrument.

00:47:37.994 --> 00:47:43.880
It's like so popular that I have to judge kids competition, all women competition.

00:47:43.900 --> 00:47:45.842
I mean, like it's everybody plays.

00:47:45.943 --> 00:47:52.489
It's not like here that is more like music lovers who love the blues 80%.

00:47:53.130 --> 00:47:57.153
You know, it's more like such a normal instrument that is amazing.

00:47:57.815 --> 00:47:59.998
And I love to play these festivals.

00:48:00.338 --> 00:48:15.974
I'll go this year also to Seoul they they just booked me you know a couple weeks ago which I'm very happy because there was no festival in the pandemic year so and the World Harmonica Festival in Trotsingen what can I say you know it's just wow

00:48:16.355 --> 00:48:21.581
the question I ask each time then Marcus is a 10 minutes question if you had 10 minutes of practice what would you spend those 10 minutes doing

00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:33.273
yeah you know now most of the times what I practice is like for instance they call me to record this or to for this gig or whatever and what I do is learn repertoire

00:48:33.612 --> 00:48:37.438
spend the time working on the repertoire that you've got to you've got to practice and perform for yeah

00:48:37.458 --> 00:49:04.157
80% of the time is what I do or trying suddenly comes an idea maybe first I I'm not a piano player but you know I have a piano at home so maybe I played a little on the piano to see where the notes are or what position I should use more or less and that's what I would do but if I had 10 minutes I would just play whatever I feel like playing at that moment probably some something very rhythmic.

00:49:04.481 --> 00:49:09.085
Probably that's how I would use the harmonica, having the most fun possible.

00:49:09.425 --> 00:49:13.969
Because at the end, that's what music is all about, having fun and enjoying

00:49:14.230 --> 00:49:14.269
it.

00:49:14.291 --> 00:49:16.431
Moving on to the last section now, to talking about gear.

00:49:16.572 --> 00:49:18.253
First of all, what's your harmonica of choice?

00:49:18.333 --> 00:49:20.615
I believe you're a marine band player.

00:49:20.976 --> 00:49:25.599
Since 15 years, endorsed by Hunter, and really they treat me really good.

00:49:26.581 --> 00:49:30.324
The same as they hired me for these festivals or events.

00:49:31.324 --> 00:49:33.606
I have access to all the instruments.

00:49:33.967 --> 00:49:37.231
I have a I mean, a set of crossovers.

00:49:37.610 --> 00:49:38.371
I really like that.

00:49:39.092 --> 00:49:41.615
My wood harmonica of choice is the crossover.

00:49:42.096 --> 00:49:46.139
And on the other hand, I have a plastic set of rockets.

00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.764
Some things I prefer to play with wood and some others with plastic.

00:49:51.045 --> 00:49:57.371
I'm not like a person who needs the harmonicas customized because also I almost don't use overblows.

00:49:57.793 --> 00:50:06.302
Out of the box, you know, maybe I have to readjust here and there one thing, but mostly 90% out of the box.

00:50:06.641 --> 00:50:09.324
And yeah, Crossover and Rocket, I would say.

00:50:09.364 --> 00:50:12.568
Of course, I have all harmonicas that they sound great.

00:50:12.608 --> 00:50:17.994
You know, I'm looking right now at them and I love many, many, many kinds.

00:50:18.014 --> 00:50:20.456
The new Golden Melody, I really like it.

00:50:20.878 --> 00:50:26.202
On the other hand, Hunter just sent me the other day because I realized that I'm in the box.

00:50:27.143 --> 00:50:31.489
My picture is on the box on the Blues Bender, which is a cheap harmonica.

00:50:31.929 --> 00:50:57.657
And the new version, which is like with a crystal come wow it sounds really good that you can use it for gigs you can even overblow out of the box so i'm not very picky with with harmonicas maybe because in my younger days i had to play with whatever i could or you know whatever i had because i could not afford to buy new harmonicas many times so i had to you know find my way so yeah crossover and and rockets

00:50:58.016 --> 00:50:59.518
and do you use different tunings as

00:50:59.898 --> 00:51:04.925
well yeah i really like the harmonic minor tuning and for my last record.

00:51:05.164 --> 00:51:09.409
I'm not using it a lot, but there's some things that I really like it.

00:51:09.690 --> 00:51:11.871
Yeah, for flamenco, it fits very good.

00:51:12.333 --> 00:51:16.376
This is on your traditional Spanish music, is it, you're using the minor tune?

00:51:16.617 --> 00:51:19.960
Yeah, I use the harmonic minor tuning on a couple of songs.

00:51:20.300 --> 00:51:26.307
I like overblows when they are well played, but I always will prefer a note that is not even bent.

00:51:26.568 --> 00:51:30.072
You know, bent is cool for the blues and for some things and everything.

00:51:30.692 --> 00:52:02.931
The best is a note that sounds without a bent, clear, and perfect tune and everything so I prefer to use a harmonic minor harmonica than if I need to overblow something okay if it's just one note okay I'll use the normal one with the overblow but I think alternative tunings are I wouldn't say like they are the future or nothing but they are great Really, because it makes it easier, but it's not that it makes it easier for playing in a way of saying it in a lazy way.

00:52:03.313 --> 00:52:05.217
I don't want to learn Overblow's good.

00:52:05.277 --> 00:52:07.021
No, it's just that it sounds better.

00:52:07.061 --> 00:52:07.682
Point.

00:52:08.344 --> 00:52:08.804
The

00:52:09.427 --> 00:52:12.132
notes sound better than being Overblow'd.

00:52:27.713 --> 00:52:28.677
And what about your embouchure?

00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.889
You were tongue blocking or puckering anything else?

00:52:31.269 --> 00:52:32.576
Both, both, both things.

00:52:32.938 --> 00:52:36.956
It depends from what, even for what style.

00:52:37.378 --> 00:52:43.362
I would say like in the last album, 80% is tongue block.

00:52:43.623 --> 00:52:44.204
I use both.

00:52:44.364 --> 00:52:47.487
I use more tongue blocking since some years.

00:52:47.766 --> 00:52:50.489
I started more being a single note player.

00:52:50.969 --> 00:52:57.795
And then, you know, when you start with that blues that you really need that tongue blocking to do those, you know, those rhythms.

00:52:57.996 --> 00:53:00.358
And then I learned, but yeah, both, both.

00:53:00.617 --> 00:53:01.838
What about amplifiers?

00:53:01.878 --> 00:53:02.960
What amps do you like to use?

00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:11.268
Well, amplifiers, I used to be like really, I just had one amp, but that amp, I had to take it with me everywhere.

00:53:11.608 --> 00:53:15.271
It was a Princeton Reverb with a tube, silver face.

00:53:15.452 --> 00:53:20.257
And I was really, no, because I was very unsure of my sound.

00:53:20.297 --> 00:53:27.284
Like if I went to a jam session or to play, I guess, with somebody and they put me through the PA, I was like, oh no.

00:53:27.626 --> 00:53:34.393
So I remember carrying that amplifier on the plane when you could bring like heavy stuff with you and luggage.

00:53:34.552 --> 00:54:24.126
I remember walking kilometers with that amplifier everywhere and now it's like came to a point that give me whatever and I'll make it sound sorry I don't want to sound pretentious but everything changed in my head it's like I really realized that the tone is in you in a 90% of course if you want to emulate that sound of the of the 50s yeah you need that gear but now these days with digital stuff you can have some pedals now from Lone Wolf or also from grot from chile that many times i just have a pedal like a heartbreak and i go through the pa and it's totally okay of course you have if i go to a festival and they put me the nicest silver face fender great but i'm not gonna do a special effort for that

00:54:24.425 --> 00:54:50.963
yeah but when you're traveling the ease of uh using you know exactly or pedals yeah so i know you do use effects quite a lot you mentioned pedals but you know the fact for example on this street preaching album you've got me and the devil's quite a lot of uh quite a Yeah, what about

00:54:51.043 --> 00:54:51.644
using effects?

00:54:52.097 --> 00:54:53.018
Yeah, I like them.

00:54:53.139 --> 00:54:53.539
I like them.

00:54:53.798 --> 00:54:57.422
Obviously, you have to learn to use them right.

00:54:57.583 --> 00:54:58.322
Don't abuse.

00:54:58.583 --> 00:55:00.545
It's like sometimes I say, yeah, great.

00:55:00.985 --> 00:55:05.610
But on the other hand, what I like is the sound of a harmonica, you know, acoustic harmonica.

00:55:05.969 --> 00:55:15.438
You know, I was thinking many times like, wow, if I put this effect, the people are going to freak out because they're going to say, whoa, I never heard a harmonica play like this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:55:15.717 --> 00:55:20.021
But at the end, the people freak out with the real sound of the harmonica.

00:55:20.242 --> 00:55:22.063
So, yeah, I fool around with some.

00:55:22.063 --> 00:55:24.746
effects, but not that much.

00:55:24.806 --> 00:55:27.730
I like the Octaver from Electro Harmonix.

00:55:27.929 --> 00:55:35.217
Then there's this man, Richard Hunter, and he's really into digital things and everything, and he was giving me a lot of tips.

00:55:35.818 --> 00:55:36.619
The Digitech pedal.

00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:37.920
Yeah, the Digitech pedal.

00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:46.489
But normally I have just a vocal microphone, and I use the new Honor Heart Blaster microphone.

00:55:46.670 --> 00:56:12.557
They were even hiring me to tie prototypes along with Marco with obviously Steve Baker who was the real the person who really developed that microphone with SE Electronics and I really love that microphone because you can get the blues sound but it's also clear because I love the old blues distorted sound and everything but not for all the songs so I also need clearness that I can play clear

00:56:12.737 --> 00:56:21.286
yeah so final question then just about your future plans so looking at your website you've got plenty of gigs coming up in Germany and Spain over the summer so is that that's what's keeping you busy

00:56:21.688 --> 00:57:04.791
yeah mostly it's that I've been in Spain and Germany I also go to Korea in August for the International Harmonica Festival and yeah my record comes in July so let's see what it brings because it's a record that is oriented in the world music label in fact it's a world music company recording record company I guess maybe I'll play other kinds of festivals with this new record somehow but you know I always keep in busy there's always ways to I'm a person who got the eggs in different baskets you know here are some classes here's some gigs with this blues project here's some recordings with so you know keeping busy

00:57:05.452 --> 00:57:08.755
yeah no fantastic so so much for joining me today Marcus Cole

00:57:09.034 --> 00:57:21.626
thank you so much and it's a real pleasure to hear your podcast I really enjoy it so thanks for doing it and thanks for bringing us such great players that they can tell their own things and I really enjoy it

00:57:22.434 --> 00:57:34.431
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00:57:34.972 --> 00:57:36.536
Thanks to Marcus for joining me today.

00:57:36.929 --> 00:57:42.436
It was great to hear his story, as well as his high-energy blues playing in his Spanish and Latin harmonica.

00:57:42.856 --> 00:57:44.737
And thanks to all of you for listening again.

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Please check out the podcast website at happyhourharmonica.com.

00:57:48.663 --> 00:57:51.606
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I'll leave you with Marcus playing us out with another traditional track of his upcoming album Nomad.

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